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Posted on Dec 10, 2013, 9:44 pm
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After waiting for more than 5 years, my time has finally come to do LL.

I am planning to write simultaneously in this forum, and in the "old forum" as well to access and share my journey with the maximum amount of people. Or, as an alternative, I might start a blog and use the diary in my website as a Q&A section. Please let us not make this "forum vs. forum" thing a point of discussion.

The payment is already made and the nails have arrived from Germany so I'm past the point of return. I'll be lengthening with Dr. Muharrem Inan, from Turkey. I'm currently in Istanbul, my hometown. A few more details..

Method: Fitbone (4th generation nail, previous technical problems are solved)

Cost: About the same as Europe, Betz, Guichet, etc.

Reason: Logistically easy. I'll lengthen at home.

Age: 22

Pros: Being at home, experienced doctor who has trained with Dr. Paley, physiotherapist will come home

Cons: No weightbearing, just like Precice

Date of surgery: Probably immediately following New Year.

More to come up.
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Posted on Dec 10, 2013, 9:51 pm
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I definitely know what you mean ChrisIsaak. I've waited 5 years as well and finally at the end of this month I'll be able to decide where to do my surgery.

Please continue to update on here. It's your experience and you're free to update however and wherever you wish so this won't become a forum vs forum thing. It would be great to read more about your doctor and keep track of your journey from now until completion.

Wish you all the best.
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Posted on Dec 10, 2013, 9:52 pm
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Great, all the best for the journey ahead.   You'll be one of the lucky ones who can lengthen at home.
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Posted on Dec 10, 2013, 9:55 pm
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Pretty snowy in Istanbul tonight, the Juventus game was canceled because of it.

Is this the same nail that Betz currently uses, or is it the older one?
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Posted on Dec 10, 2013, 10:44 pm
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QuoteFirst of all, I would like to state that I trust SysOP, and I don't care about his patient identity. SysOP literally saved my life a couple weeks ago by telling me NOT to do externals on femurs. I was thinking about doing LON on femurs with a local doctor, and SysOP along with Crazy changed my mind.

This is a quote from Upinthesky on old forum  who is ChrisIssak on this forum. This is no secret since he is literally posting the same information on both forums at the same time. The reason I brought this up is do you know how unbelievably stupid you have to be to think Sysop/Apotheosis saved your life by telling you not to do external femurs. You said you've been researching LL for 5 years. How in the hell did you not know this information already? Hate me if you want but that is utterly pathetic on your part to have consulted with Dr. Paley and Dr. Guichet and you still were considering external femurs and the only people who stopped you from making the dumbest decision in your life were two con men.

Good luck!
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Posted on Dec 10, 2013, 10:59 pm
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Quote from: handy on December 10, 2013, 10:44:30 PMThis is a quote from Upinthesky on old forum  who is ChrisIssak on this forum. This is no secret since he is literally posting the same information on both forums at the same time. The reason I brought this up is do you know how unbelievably stupid you have to be to think Sysop/Apotheosis saved your life by telling you not to do external femurs. You said you've been researching LL for 5 years. How in the hell did you not know this information already? Hate me if you want but that is utterly pathetic on your part to have consulted with Dr. Paley and Dr. Guichet and you still were considering external femurs and the only people who stopped you from making the dumbest decision in your life were two con men.

Good luck!

I agree. 3 or 4 months after joining Make Me Taller, I learned external femurs were dangerous. Upinthesky is giving that   too much credit.
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Posted on Dec 10, 2013, 11:09 pm
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Quote from: ChrisIsaak on December 10, 2013, 09:44:55 PMPros: Being at home, experienced doctor who has trained with Dr. Paley, physiotherapist will come home

Cons: No weightbearing, just like Precice

Ok. Let me get this straight ChrisIsaak. You like the doctor because he trained with Dr. Paley, and you consulted with Dr. Paley, but you still think that the Precice is not weight bearing. So even though Dr. Paley created the Precice and has said it offers weight bearing with crutches you still believe the lies on old forum  about the Precice not being weight bearing and the Betzbone, Guichet nails being weight bearing even though they constantly bend and break like popsicle sticks. Wow!  Fitbone Femur Lengthening in Istanbul - Dr. Muharrem Inan This is off to a great start and should make for a very interesting patient experience!
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Posted on Dec 10, 2013, 11:16 pm
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Jesus H. Christ on a stick handy, relax, and show some manners! Let's show this forum is a more welcoming place than the other one.

He is probably referring to the original 6.5 cm PRECICE. The new and for some people weight bearing one has just been released and some may not have been updating themselves about it yet.

Also, he's going to use Fitbone, not Betzbone/Guichet's Albizzia nail variants.
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Posted on Dec 10, 2013, 11:22 pm
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Can't say I have ever read a Fitbone diary, will be interesting. Google it for more info, it seems quite unique.
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Posted on Dec 10, 2013, 11:23 pm
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Quote from: Kilokahn on December 10, 2013, 09:51:24 PMI definitely know what you mean ChrisIsaak. I've waited 5 years as well and finally at the end of this month I'll be able to decide where to do my surgery.

Please continue to update on here. It's your experience and you're free to update however and wherever you wish so this won't become a forum vs forum thing. It would be great to read more about your doctor and keep track of your journey from now until completion.

Wish you all the best.

Thanks a lot, Kilokahn!
I hope to copy-paste the things I wrote on both forums, but both diaries might take a different shape, naturally, depending on the questions I get from fellow forum contributors. I sincerely hope to continue sharing until the end, even after recovery. I will do bilateral lengthening and will be on a wheelchair for quite a while, so the boredom will probably ensure that I'll hang out on the forum!  Fitbone Femur Lengthening in Istanbul - Dr. Muharrem Inan  I hope to collect a heap of comic books/magazines (the old EsseGesse ones in particular, Italian and French cartoons mostly), get a computer game (heard that GTA V isn't produced for PC yet, so I might get IV, as well as Sims 3.. dang, I feel like I'm young again. I haven't played a video game for more than 5 years), my Fender Strat, and a couple of books as well as a set of dumbbells for exercise before the surgery.

Quote from: Dameon on December 10, 2013, 09:52:54 PMGreat, all the best for the journey ahead.   You'll be one of the lucky ones who can lengthen at home.


Thanks mate!

Quote from: FrankGarrett on December 10, 2013, 09:55:20 PMPretty snowy in Istanbul tonight, the Juventus game was canceled because of it.

Is this the same nail that Betz currently uses, or is it the older one?

I literally LAUGHED at this post. You're awesome  Fitbone Femur Lengthening in Istanbul - Dr. Muharrem Inan
As an avid Gala fan, I was watching the game till it stopped. I think the referee made a bad decision.. It could've went on..
Dr. Betz uses the Betzbone, his own version of Albizzia.
Fitbone is still used throughout Europe, especially by Professor Baumgart in Germany. He used to work with Betz.
Fitbone doesn't have a "ratcheting" mechanical system for clicking, it has an electrical lengthening system with a remote control.

Quote from: handy on December 10, 2013, 10:44:30 PMThis is a quote from Upinthesky on old forum  who is ChrisIssak on this forum. This is no secret since he is literally posting the same information on both forums at the same time. The reason I brought this up is do you know how unbelievably stupid you have to be to think Sysop/Apotheosis saved your life by telling you not to do external femurs. You said you've been researching LL for 5 years. How in the hell did you not know this information already? Hate me if you want but that is utterly pathetic on your part to have consulted with Dr. Paley and Dr. Guichet and you still were considering external femurs and the only people who stopped you from making the dumbest decision in your life were two con men.

Good luck!

Guys, please don't. Please let us not get into this forum vs. forum thing.

As for the explanation handy, I'll be honest about one thing.
I still don't know if external femurs (LON) is a terrible idea or not.
Yes, I've read about LL for 5 years.
Yes, I've done research on my part.
Yes, SysOP and Crazy +6 claim that external femurs is a terrible idea. Crazy can attest to this, having done it himself, and I've seen his recent walking video, and felt terribly sorry for the guy.
However, I've actually seen good doctors doing LON on femurs.
I've seen cases where I hope it will work, and seen cases where it hasn't.
If I can get in contact with a patient who is doing LON on femurs at the moment (I know of one, but I haven't tried to contact him) I will definitely let you know about how he's doing.
All I know is that he couldn't afford internals and he's lengthening with monorails on his femurs at the moment.

Another doctor (and I prefer not to give out his name) offered to do LON on femurs, and wanted $50,000 for it. He gave another price to another patient. Naturally, I was pissed off. After talking to that patient, I saw that he was in terrible pain. He discontinued to lengthen at an early stage, and removed the monorails. When I learned about this from him on Skype, I was grateful to the guys on old forum  for warning me. HOWEVER... That surgery wasn't his FIRST one on the femurs. And I thought MAYBE that's why things didn't work out the way he wanted. Maybe he pushed his body too far.
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