Say you're a man with a normal tibia/femur ratio and a wingspan longer than your height (or at least not shorter), you do LL on the femurs, you add 5-8 cm (probably 6-7 cm if I did it), and everything goes well. How obvious would it be to people afterwards that you did it? Would your knees look noticeably lower? If you hypothetically were a public figure of some kind (I'm not, but assuming worse-case scenario) and there were a lot of full-body photos of you online, would people be able to tell or speculate? What about going to the beach or wearing shorts? Is it something you have to take subtle steps to hide or worry about for the rest of your life, or do your legs normal?
If it's noticeable, would doing quadrilateral LL (with the 2 lengthenings spaced apart for safety) be worth it to make sure you have completely normal leg proportions and you never have to worry about them looking weird, or is the increased risk and effort of doing a second lengthening on the tibias not worth the improved aesthetics?
How obvious is it you've done LL (femurs only)?
Quote from: jbfjbj4 on January 13, 2024, 07:31:22 PMYou're not a public figure, you never will be, and they'll never be millions of people looking at your full body pics online. Whether you can or cannot go to the beach afterwards is nothing compared to the advantages of being 3 inches taller. These are tiny issues of no significance whatsoever.
Alright. But how obvious is it, for say 6-7 cm? How much does the knee move down the leg visually?
Quote from: markr09 on January 14, 2024, 10:19:32 AMIt also depends on your proportions in the first place. The current accepted normal ratio at minimum of tibia:femurs is .78. That's just considering the leg bones, there's also the torso. If you're someone with short femurs and a long torso, then LL on femurs won't be as noticeable. I personally have short af femurs, still longer than tibias ofc, but it's one reason why my calves look huge even with moderate bodybuilding. But it's also one reason why a lot of shorts don't look good on me because my knees are quite high so a lot of they tend to go below the knees even the ones that are supposed to be actually short. They're just meant for ppl with long femurs. It's one reason why I'm also opting for femur LL.
If you're someone with normal ratio, then I'd say it"ll definitely be quite noticeable but not really to an extent most ppl would care enough to notice. Most ppl can't even differentiate soft higher heights to hard shorter ones. Unless you're buck nked then it shouldn't be an issue much.
Quad LL may help with tibia to femur ratio but you're still stuck with how long your torso is. If anything it might look worse if you try to maximize it. Since you'll have real long af looking legs if you have a short torso. I'd say keep it reasonable if you want it less noticeable not on extreme top lengths of both.
Do you think doing the same increase (7 cm) split into two segments, like 3.5 cm tibias and 3.5 cm femurs or whatever they have to be to maintain my pre-LL tibia/femur ratio, is worth it if money is no issue, or is the increased risk, effort and long-term effects from doing quad LL not worth if I still plan on doing 7 cm? That the only logical reason why someone would do quad LL is if they want more than 8 cm and doing it purely for aesthetics doesn't make sense?
Quote from: overandover on January 17, 2024, 12:11:58 AMNo one can tell. My tall friends didn't even notice. People don't notice you as much as you think. Only people who are around same height as you will notice.
I don't mean the height gain necessarily, but how the legs look after.
Quote from: markr09 on January 17, 2024, 12:09:53 AMSo I just want to say, multiple times I've sat next to people who are 5'8 to 5'11, and yes it just varies a lot. My co-worker who I sat with in a couch during a meeting, we were sitting rather straight because of course, meeting with bosses. I noticed we had the same or rather very close seating heights and similar tibia/lower leg height as well, the only huge noticeable difference is our femurs, his is noticably 3 inches or more longer. And this isn't the first time I've seen this sat next to a taller person, so I'm confident enough atleast for my femurs that when lengthened it will still look fine proportionally speaking.
The calc is wrong but in regards to trying to maintain your pre LL ratio, imo no it's not worth atleast in terms for both duration and risk. Also no sane LL'er would even opt for just 3.5cm on a segment when planning two LL. It's not worth the time nor effort.
Precisely, at minimum you want atleast 5cm for both segments. Remember you're wasting almost 2 years of your life just for a single pair of LL and for 3.5cm? That's not worth at all. You wasted 4 years just to recover from 7cm lengthening.
IMO again is just do one segment first and see where it goes from there. Personally I think I'm fine with 5'9. My ideal goal is 5'10ish but honestly that's only if I want to also risk both time and money and seeing it now, probably hard no.
Yeah I think doing only one lengthening is the most pragmatic solution. Single LL is already half a fantasy for me at this point in my life, so double LL is a pipe dream anyway. If legs really vary like that and wouldn't look too weird with 3 inches lengthening (all I want anyway) I can live with it.
Quote from: jbfjbj4 on January 31, 2024, 02:12:50 PMIt's not noticeable, and there's one very easy way to prove this:
How many people have you walked past IRL and thought 'they had leg lengthening done'? 0, right? Infact the only times you've ever noticed a proportions imbalance I bet, is from pictures posted on this forum.
All those thousands, tens of thousands of people you've walked past in the street, met at work, gone to college with etc, and you couldn't notice a single one who had LL done. So even people on this forum, who would be 'more trained' to notice such things, wouldn't be able to 'notice' on a stranger unless they were specifically looking for it (which is why asking about your proportions here is useless, as anyone as 'see' something if it's been pointed out to them already).
true, a lot of people talk about Henry Cavill having very small arms but I never noticed it until I really started paying attention to this stuff.
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