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Posted on Oct 12, 2017, 5:48 pm
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Or 20% being generous. It's all connected with the ultimate 3 reasons of why I need height. If I was like 5'9"-5'10", I wouldn't be seen as short by any social standards and I am physically taller than 95%-99% of white women population and 50% of men. We all know that women don't like men shorter than them.

But now since I'm only 5'5.75", I officially statistically fall into short category, only taller than 40% of the women and shorter than 95% of men. I can't help to think that it's world difference.

Now you may ask, what makes you think that 5'9"-5'10" is your right height? First of all my father is 5'9"-5'10" and my sisters are 5'5" and 5'4.5". To be fair, I don't see everyday other Asian guys who are good 3"-4" shorter than his fathers and barely taller than his sisters.

Either I gotta be really really really unlucky in genetic lottery or it's, what I prefer to accept as the reality, that I stunted my growth. I happened to do ALL THINGS that could harm growth, I mean ALL.

In the past, I believed that it's masturbation. Then I ate mainly rice (carbs) without adequate amount of vitamin and protein. But the most popular and what I believe to really have had a huge impact on my short stature is sleep deprivation and depression.

As you might know, the theory is that we grow when we sleep, if we don't sleep then there's no growth. By sleep deprivation, I meant consistent 2 hours of night sleep since the age of 10. Lastly, depression killed the growth cells.

Now, what's the reason behind my sleep deprivation and depression? School. And what's the reason behind me attending school? My parents. Believing my parents was probably one of the biggest mistakes I've done in the past.

Things will never be the same now. I will have to fight with the my 10-20% left for the next decades, for no necessary reasons.

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Posted on Oct 13, 2017, 6:23 pm
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Quote from: IwannaBeTaller on October 12, 2017, 06:00:01 PMDude, lay off these stupid calculations, they are not helpful. Adult height is the result of many different factors, one being the environment and another being genetics, where over 100 different genes influence how your growth looks like. You might have stunted some of your potential growth - nobody can tell your how much that is 100% - or your upbringing might only have had a marginal effect on your adult height. A lot of teens barely sleep and still grow up tall. There is no evidence that depression stunts growth. The effects of depression, such as lack of sleep or nutrition can have an effect, but depression itself does not.

You might've reached close to your complete genetic potential for all we know. You are taller than your sisters. How tall is your mother? In any case, it does not matter too much now. Back in your teen years, you did the best you could based on the situation back then. Now you are where you are now. Work from there.


Maybe I didn't do the best I could, I could have done something more to prevent it. A marginal effect is still an effect. You're right, I don't know how much my 100% is. But what I know that I did everything that I could do stunt my height and that's the guilt I have to live with for the rest of my life.

Quote from: Android on October 12, 2017, 06:13:59 PMFirst of all, I'd like to say that I'm sorry that you've been through so much. It's no fun to feel that you may have made all the wrong choices when looking back.

There are plenty of tall people who prescribed to your way of living, so I'd just blame the genetic lottery; don't be so harsh on your younger self. I ate a ton of rice and not much meat either, and I'm only 5'5", but my mom is 4'11" so under the circumstances I consider myself lucky. Still shorter than my dad though, he's around 5'7".

Work on your depression first, and when you're no longer blaming your past, then look into CLL. Don't do CLL to fix the past, do it to improve your future.


Strangely, tall people that I know all liked to sleep. To be honest, I never met anyone else who slept 2 hours a night since the age of 10 consistently until 17.

Quote from: Body Builder on October 12, 2017, 10:51:43 PMHeight is almost 99% genetic.
Even if you slept a lot and ate the best you could you would have been taller 2-3 cm at max.
So you would have still been short.

So don't think about all these, they are stupid. My father is 5.9 and my mother 5.3 and I was born 5.6. My first cousin has a 5.5 dad and a 5.1 mom and he is 5.8.
So different genetics but I don't blame anyone, I simply was unlucky to have a bad height but lucky to have a good face, mesomorph body (which can get good muscles) etc. Most of people can't have anything.
And since we have LL, height is something that can change so don't think about all these bs that stunted your height (because the main reason was just bad genetics, accept it) and do LL the improve your life.


2-3 would still make a difference. Besides it's just an arbitrary number you made up. Maybe it's 5cm-10cm? I'll never know.

Quote from: google42 on October 13, 2017, 01:00:47 AMWhat you said is not true. Your height does not make or break you and you can definitely be successful and happy in life. Also, height is mostly genetic and there are many examples I can point out to you. I know people who've always played sports and ate healthy but are still short. I know people who did the opposite and are average height or taller. Maybe you did stunt your growth but I doubt it was by a lot.

After all You can still do leg lengthening but you have to be in a positive state first. Get help for your depression and other stuff so you can make yourself happy. Once your happy with yourself and you still want to do leg lengthening then the process will be much easier for you.

Get your life together-> make yourself happier-> then decide to do leg lengthening= better outcome


My height definitely breaks me. I have no doubt about it. I don't know about other people, all I know is that I was extremely sleep deprived and ended up short when my father and sisters are tall.

Quote from: Bander72 on October 13, 2017, 03:33:45 AMI don't know whether to laugh or feel bad for this guy. And the lunatic above me that talks nonsense.


What's there to laugh?

Quote from: Winterishere on October 13, 2017, 04:32:05 AMMany people seem to have a skewed perception of growth in children. While it is true that a good diet with a healthy amount of exercise and sleep does lead to an increase in height and body mass, this is mainly meant in a generational and cultural sense rather than in one individual person. It would be very unlikely for the factors you mentioned to significantly stunt your growth, which is primarily genetic. Unfortunately you most likely would of been the same height regardless, and masterbation would of most certainly not caused any effect either. In fact masterbation is perfectly natural and has been linked to a huge variety of healthy attributes, especially in males. 5ft 6 is on the shorter side of normal for a male, but its in no means abnormal. If you want my personal opinion you have two choices in the matter. Learn to live and love yourself the way you are, or take action and do something about it! Distributing blame in your life will only make things harder and push people away. Good luck to you and I hope this in some way helped!


I never said 5'6" is abnormal. I am saying that I will have to live with 10% of my maximum potential for the rest of my life.

Quote from: jerkey on October 12, 2017, 09:06:54 PMIf you are set on getting LL and you have bad depression, you should get that in check with meds/smth first b/c LL can get very lonely and difficult psychologically. You can't move around well for months during lengthening. There's occasional pains and stretches can sometimes get difficult. As far as I'm concerned you can take antidepressants while doing LL so you should get it dealt with first.


Quote from: RealTrump on October 13, 2017, 11:36:36 AMOk--better sit in your room and do nothing about it. JO and drink sodas.


I'm not set on getting it. I wish I could do something about it. But LL will cripple me as a martial artist.

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Posted on Oct 14, 2017, 5:46 am
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Quote from: Bander72 on October 14, 2017, 04:40:14 AMDude you don't see how silly you look when you post I am on going to be 10% of my full potential.


Elaborate.

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Posted on Oct 14, 2017, 12:53 pm
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Quote from: Bander72 on October 14, 2017, 07:27:39 AMWell first you are having a distorted believe that you are only a shell of yourself. You don't think that you are going to be more depressed if you have the mindset that there's no point in trying. Instead of the woe is me mentality you should be.focusing on getting taller or die trying.


I am definitely far from being my maximum potential due to height.

I wish it was possible. But LL would only cripple me as a martial artist.

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