i wish i didn't do cll???

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when they say you are right. If the man is 165 and below the procedure is definitely worth the risk.
Depends on 170 -175 people.
I am 170-171 tall and wear a tall high sole or elevator, but I will still take risks for this. As said, the year 2020 height is perhaps the most important thing for men, but progress in the field of Cll is still bad. Most of the default things are invalid in the 90s for the 2000s

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Quote from: a on August 20, 2020, 05:30:47 PMSo what I'm saying is, even at the average height; you can improve your life 20x after CLL. You won't have to wear thick shoes. You will love the person you see at the mirror. I guess there are rare exceptions like me who are average but has never been negative commented.
That's why I want it so bad.

I don't think you got my point. More height is always beneficial for men, there is no doubt. There is plenty of research about that. Women are more attracted to you, it's easier to get in leadership positions, etc...

My point is that when you are really short and you face actual heightism, you tend to downplay how hard LL is and any complications. That's why I never met someone that regretted in Germany. Even the non-short patients had serious height neurosis (which is different than heightmism, no matter what Paley says). So everyone was happy, even with serious complication, because the extra height was LIFE CHANGING.

Look at my case: 165cm to 174,5cm. I seriously feel like I only became an adult after my LL. It was really life changing.

But If your life is great right now - like yours seems to be - you will be CRUSHED if you have a serious complication, have to take one or two years to recover, only to realize that it wasn't life changing at all.

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Quote from: BetzLandLiberator on August 20, 2020, 06:17:10 PMI don't think you got my point. More height is always beneficial for men, there is no doubt. There is plenty of research about that. Women are more attracted to you, it's easier to get in leadership positions, etc...

My point is that when you are really short and you face actual heightism, you tend to downplay how hard LL is and any complications. That's why I never met someone that regretted in Germany. Even the non-short patients had serious height neurosis (which is different than heightmism, no matter what Paley says). So everyone was happy, even with serious complication, because the extra height was LIFE CHANGING.

Look at my case: 165cm to 174,5cm. I seriously feel like I only became an adult after my LL. It was really life changing.

But If your life is great right now - like yours seems to be - you will be CRUSHED if you have a serious complication, have to take one or two years to recover, only to realize that it wasn't life changing at all.

Do you keep LL to yourself? I have no idea how one does 10cm from 165 and integrates back into normal life when everyone can notice the change. Do people perceive you the same after they find out you did this? Did you tell your girlfriend you had it done? Are you concerned everyone you know could eventually find out?

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Quote from: norway on August 20, 2020, 07:27:15 PMDo you keep LL to yourself? I have no idea how one does 10cm from 165 and integrates back into normal life when everyone can notice the change. Do people perceive you the same after they find out you did this? Did you tell your girlfriend you had it done? Are you concerned everyone you know could eventually find out?

I only told my family. Some of my friends noticed that I was taller but the majority didn't as I was away from my country for years.
I left my country in my middle 20's to study abroad and I had LL before I went back. So I think most people assumed I had a late growth spurt.But you'd be surprised by how some people REALLY didn't notice. I had a former girlfriend of my old height (165cm). When she saw me again taller she was shocked...because she thought I was MUCH STRONGER AND MUSCULAR, not that I was taller...lol I think women connect tall to strong.

Keep in mind that most people don't know that LL is possible. So if they see you again after some years taller, they will just assume their memory is playing tricks on them. A friend literally told me "I could swear you were shorter. My memory is horrible.".

Of course that won't work if you just disappear for three months then come back 10cm taller.




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Are your scars noticeable? I think 7- 8 cm will not be noticeable with normal shoes as most people here wear elevators.

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Quote from: drxboom on August 20, 2020, 08:11:04 PMAre your scars noticeable? I think 7- 8 cm will not be noticeable with normal shoes as most people here wear elevators.

No, they are almost invisible and very tiny. Betz does very few cuts during surgery, to the point that no male patients worries about the scars (women patients always do, though).

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Quote from: BetzLandLiberator on August 20, 2020, 08:01:36 PMI only told my family. Some of my friends noticed that I was taller but the majority didn't as I was away from my country for years.
I left my country in my middle 20's to study abroad and I had LL before I went back. So I think most people assumed I had a late growth spurt.But you'd be surprised by how some people REALLY didn't notice. I had a former girlfriend of my old height (165cm). When she saw me again taller she was shocked...because she thought I was MUCH STRONGER AND MUSCULAR, not that I was taller...lol I think women connect tall to strong.

Keep in mind that most people don't know that LL is possible. So if they see you again after some years taller, they will just assume their memory is playing tricks on them. A friend literally told me "I could swear you were shorter. My memory is horrible.".

Of course that won't work if you just disappear for three months then come back 10cm taller.




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yes this worked out well for you, coming back home after many years.

Don't you feel obligated to tell the person you marry if you plan to? This is major surgery after all.

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Hey, BLL

Do you still feel tightness on your legs, or are you pretty much fully recovered? What about your bio-mechanics? Does running make you feel weird? Can you even run at full speed?

edit: I'm sorry, I don't know about your journey but I guess you got the procedure a long time ago. But my questions are still valid.

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I really feel 10cm will be life changing but im not sure my proportions and sitting height will allow it. What do you his think? 10 cm ?

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Quote from: norway on August 20, 2020, 08:37:02 PMyes this worked out well for you, coming back home after many years.

Don't you feel obligated to tell the person you marry if you plan to? This is major surgery after all.

Not really. Genetically speaking I was supposed to be taller according to my doctors. At least 180cm (my brother is around 186cm). I was shorter because I had a heart problem when I was kid and that stunted my growth. It also explains why I always had the torso and broad shoulders of something around my current height (174,5cm) not from my original height (165cm).

For me LL was never about getting something extra, but about correcting something that I was supposed to have in the first place.
Genetically, my kids will be fine.