Installing height- Programdude's Precice 2 Internal femurs with Dr. Paley

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Do you think that the amount you lengthened has anything to do with your current aches?

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Quote from: programdude on November 26, 2016, 03:30:41 AMI still wouldnt say full at all. But thats mainly with running, and a lot of that is because of how the hardware in my leg feels. Once its removed we will see where things are. However, in terms of walking and hiking etc. I am totally comfortable and efficient.

How is your running now? Has the hardware been removed? Do you think that your running would have been better if your tibias had been lengthened by 5 cm or a little less instead?

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I've just finished reading your entire diary, Programdude! Thanks so much for taking the time and sticking with the community for 3+ years now.

I took a lot of notes along the way, so I'll try to give back to the community by answering the question about sleep based on what you wrote along the journey:

Quote from: programdude on August 02, 2015, 06:15:42 AMAs for sleep, the bad news is, as my diary indicates, sleep is the worst part of all this and never gets better. ZZZquill helped. Read through my thread and you will pick up some things here and there. It can be brutal.

Sleep was generally pretty bad for everyone distracting femurs, but not tibias, and it improved radically once the distraction phased stopped:

• "Nights are somewhat hard for me(my Hong Kong LL'er friend has reported the same), as discomfort has me waking up every hour or two. Mornings are also somewhat tough because of this, being weak bodied and ill rested making it hard to find the motivation"
• "I've talked to my LL friends and they report similar sleeping issues."
• [Hong Kong guy] "like mostly everyone else reports sleeping issues"
• "Its not the actual hour of day that makes sleeping difficult, just that sleeping in general is rough."
• "every single person I've met doing femurs has a terrible time sleeping. The people I've met doing tibias sleep like a rock for 8-10 hours"
• "Again- This is a very up and down experience but you do eventually start to settle into it, getting used to hellish nights of poor sleep and functioning off that and getting into the rhythm of lengthening, napping, eating, PT."

What helped:

• strenuous exercise makes sleep easier
• "Slept well again thanks to my new/good friend valium"
• "Best thing I've found is taking an Ultracet and it makes it easier to find a sleeping position that doesn't cause me to be uncomfortable."
• zzzquil helped, but not much (easier to fall asleep after waking up). 6 weeks in, still  ty sleep
• Try benadryl?

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Hi all,

I definitely feel like I should participate here. I am pretty happy with my LL experience so far but I need to admit once again pain is coming back at night. I remember that after I came back home from Spain (except in the flight coming over), I did not experience any pain, however, pain has kicked back in once again since this week

But now I feel the pain is coming from the muscle. Not long ago tramadol used to work like a charm but somehow now is not working so well. Honestly, I can't wait to be over this and have some proper sleep.

Cheers!!!

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Problems with sleep are only during lengthening phase or even after, till full consolidation lets say?

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Quote from: U only live once on November 16, 2017, 01:01:10 PMHi all,

I definitely feel like I should participate here. I am pretty happy with my LL experience so far but I need to admit once again pain is coming back at night. I remember that after I came back home from Spain (except in the flight coming over), I did not experience any pain, however, pain has kicked back in once again since this week

But now I feel the pain is coming from the muscle. Not long ago tramadol used to work like a charm but somehow now is not working so well. Honestly, I can't wait to be over this and have some proper sleep.

Cheers!!!

Get it checked.

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Quote from: Body Builder on November 16, 2017, 01:19:09 PMProblems with sleep are only during lengthening phase or even after, till full consolidation lets say?

Hi bodybuilder,

Do you think pain may persist even after the lengthening stage ? Although my pain is 1 or 2/10 at the most, I would not like to have it after the lengthening phase!

Maybe as a word of advice to others, I have noticed pain goes away when I exercise my leg. The problem is that I work in the mornings  and waking up in the middle of the night to exercise my leg is not very nice, I guess this is some of the extra price you need to pay should you wanna be taller.

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I've had LITERALLY 0 pain, and i mean 0. since 2 weeks after operation...sleeping was weird the first month but now i sleep even too much...It's with fitbone and i have lengthened 6 +. Bodybuilder you should be more than fine Walk in the park if you're young i guess?

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Quote from: U only live once on November 16, 2017, 05:15:04 PMHi bodybuilder,

Do you think pain may persist even after the lengthening stage ? Although my pain is 1 or 2/10 at the most, I would not like to have it after the lengthening phase!

Maybe as a word of advice to others, I have noticed pain goes away when I exercise my leg. The problem is that I work in the mornings  and waking up in the middle of the night to exercise my leg is not very nice, I guess this is some of the extra price you need to pay should you wanna be taller.
Usually pain stops after lengthening withe externals but I am not sure about internals. I think it will be the same but Idk.

Personally I had almost zero pain even when I was lengthening. My LL experience was painless except from the first 2-3 days after initial surgery.
Of course I was very young (23) and when I'll do ly second LL I'd be about 31-2 but still you are not old for that surgery at that age and human body heals fast till 40-45 so I hope I won't experience much pain with internals.

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Quote from: InferiorityComplex on November 16, 2017, 06:27:33 PMI've had LITERALLY 0 pain, and i mean 0. since 2 weeks after operation...sleeping was weird the first month but now i sleep even too much...It's with fitbone and i have lengthened 6 +. Bodybuilder you should be more than fine Walk in the park if you're young i guess?

Hi InferiorityComplex,   Congratulations on your progress.   did you do Femurs ? Who with?

I'm happy to hear you're sleeping well since after week 2.  I'm scheduled for January 2018 with Dr. Mahboubian and concerned about sleep after surgery. From what I hear, pain is present with internal femurs until week 2, then it seems almost non existent.

Do you have a diary ?  I tried looking for one.

All the best.