Is 5'4 to 5'10 unrealistic?

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for me it starts at 4.8 cm. i didnt walk much because the pins hurted and i didnt have a big space . was in a small apartment area. i grew out to 5.5 cm so yeh. my achilles still sore on my left leg. i can run down stairs if anything no ballerina with slippers.
if u walk alot assuming ur ballerina will go as u walk . sometimes i think if i went for more i would cut my achilles tendon because its sore sometime and i cant get to fully stretch sometimes.

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Quote from: Beemer m3 on June 19, 2024, 07:25:33 AMfor me it starts at 4.8 cm. i didnt walk much because the pins hurted and i didnt have a big space . was in a small apartment area. i grew out to 5.5 cm so yeh. my achilles still sore on my left leg. i can run down stairs if anything no ballerina with slippers.
if u walk alot assuming ur ballerina will go as u walk . sometimes i think if i went for more i would cut my achilles tendon because its sore sometime and i cant get to fully stretch sometimes.

Hey Beemer m3, I noticed that you've already gotten your surgery. Do you intend to get another one? I noticed that your original height was 168cm, which as I clarified a few comments ago, is basically how tall I am w/ shoes. Sometimes I honestly just want to aim for 5'11, but obviously side effects are the main concern.

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There is no safe way to lengthen that amount. There is no chance a real good doctor would even suggest that's a safe limit. Everybody encouraging you to try it's simply misleading, the risk factor with that insane amount is off the chart. 8 cm in femurs is pretty much the highest and the limit from that part of your body, if you lenghten more than 4 or 5 cms of your tibias you won't be able to recover and your perone won't seal ever. Yes you are extremely short but it's a risk simply isnt worth it. Don't even consider turkish butchers, you could literally die there or get crippled for life, don't try luck with your own body and mobility.

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Quote from: sxxa on June 19, 2024, 05:02:32 PMThere is no safe way to lengthen that amount. There is no chance a real good doctor would even suggest that's a safe limit. Everybody encouraging you to try it's simply misleading, the risk factor with that insane amount is off the chart. 8 cm in femurs is pretty much the highest and the limit from that part of your body, if you lenghten more than 4 or 5 cms of your tibias you won't be able to recover and your perone won't seal ever. Yes you are extremely short but it's a risk simply isnt worth it. Don't even consider turkish butchers, you could literally die there or get crippled for life, don't try luck with your own body and mobility.

Does that include getting 8 cm on my femurs, and 5 cm on the tibias? Or is that also dangerous? I didn't really say that I would ever exceed any limits in a single surgery, I know that would be pretty stupid.

And no, Turkey isn't even on my list.

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Quote from: PleaseComeVisitMeDawg on June 19, 2024, 05:49:12 PMDoes that include getting 8 cm on my femurs, and 5 cm on the tibias? Or is that also dangerous? I didn't really say that I would ever exceed any limits in a single surgery, I know that would be pretty stupid.

And no, Turkey isn't even on my list.

I'm on the side of conservative measures, personally I would not lenghten my femurs more than 5 cm. In that range you are pretty much under the safest reach and faster recovery with minimal risks and your muscles won't suffer that much as opposed to 8 cm which I personally consider way too much.

Tibias are quite different because there are two bones in one limb, and if you over extend, let's say anything above 4 or 5 cm it could be a disaster, ballerina foot, your muscles get really really stiff and then there is the risk your perone can't heal.

I believe there is so much confusion with this surgery in the sense people don't actually realise how hard it is, and how it can affect your mobility and bio mechanics and in general it changes your life completely, anyway don't trust me, download any anatomy book and see for yourself, check medical info and learn everything you can to make an informed decision

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Quote from: sxxa on June 19, 2024, 11:56:45 PMI'm on the side of conservative measures, personally I would not lenghten my femurs more than 5 cm. In that range you are pretty much under the safest reach and faster recovery with minimal risks and your muscles won't suffer that much as opposed to 8 cm which I personally consider way too much.

Tibias are quite different because there are two bones in one limb, and if you over extend, let's say anything above 4 or 5 cm it could be a disaster, ballerina foot, your muscles get really really stiff and then there is the risk your perone can't heal.

I believe there is so much confusion with this surgery in the sense people don't actually realise how hard it is, and how it can affect your mobility and bio mechanics and in general it changes your life completely, anyway don't trust me, download any anatomy book and see for yourself, check medical info and learn everything you can to make an informed decision

I agree 100%. There's a reason Paley recommends no more than 4 cm in tibia and 5 cm in femur in one go. Especially for tibia, 4 cm gain is as significant as 5 cm gain in femur in the sense of percentage of lengthening. At least in my case, 4 cm tibia is about 11.5% of original bone length and 5 cm femur is, again, 11.5% of original femur length. Although 10% of original bone length is considered the safest, IMO 11.5% is the upper safe limit and above that complications start to shoot up dramatically.

IMO, 4 cm in tibia and 5 cm in femur is the best in terms of safety and proportions. 9 cm is significant height gain in legs that will completely change the proportions of someone's leg-to-body and make him / her look tall. There's no need to lengthen more than that unless one is dwarf.

For example, me at 165 cm night height will become 174 cm after 9 cm quadrilateral. It's a completely different league, an inch below average height in the USA and many parts of Europe.

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Quote from: AnotherLLer on June 20, 2024, 12:23:18 AMI agree 100%. There's a reason Paley recommends no more than 4 cm in tibia and 5 cm in femur in one go. Especially for tibia, 4 cm gain is as significant as 5 cm gain in femur in the sense of percentage of lengthening. At least in my case, 4 cm tibia is about 11.5% of original bone length and 5 cm femur is, again, 11.5% of original femur length. Although 10% of original bone length is considered the safest, IMO 11.5% is the upper safe limit and above that complications start to shoot up dramatically.

IMO, 4 cm in tibia and 5 cm in femur is the best in terms of safety and proportions. 9 cm is significant height gain in legs that will completely change the proportions of someone's leg-to-body and make him / her look tall. There's no need to lengthen more than that unless one is dwarf.

For example, me at 165 cm night height will become 174 cm after 9 cm quadrilateral. It's a completely different league, an inch below average height in the USA and many parts of Europe.

Correct, love to see like minded people in this forum. I've been acused of misinforming when in reality our criteria is likely the safest and best informed.

9cm is absolutely a big change. Anything beyond that is lunacy.