Thanks Temaki, I'm not familiar with how the screws should have been placed. But I can see the difference in the gap between tibia and fibula that you mentioned. And it does seem like the upper screw in the left leg isn't holding the fibula. Thanks for pointing that out.
Do you have pronation with left ankle also?
Do you have pronation with left ankle also?
Also if the left shin is dent, it means it’s not forming enough callus
Even 0.33 mm a day can be too fast for bent bone
I hope more callus to come out
Please be very careful with lengthening without enough callus
Did you see RGKey X-rays? He also had dent shin and had to do bone graft
Quote from: marathonrunner on October 22, 2019, 10:48:02 AMThanks Temaki, I'm not familiar with how the screws should have been placed. But I can see the difference in the gap between tibia and fibula that you mentioned. And it does seem like the upper screw in the left leg isn't holding the fibula. Thanks for pointing that out.
I'm no expert but I think no matter if LON/LATN or Stryde for tibia. It's basically both a nail inside the tibia which is fixed by screws. If you look at Jolien's latest X-rays you see that her fibulas aren't hold/fixed by any screws. You can ask a doctor but I don't think that fibulas are supposed to be fixed.
Quote from: marathonrunner on October 22, 2019, 09:53:06 AMHi Great, I did Stryde, not LON. So I'm not familiar with what pain points LON has.
For me I have knee joint pain, pain directly below the knee (upper tibia bone) and pain on the lower tibia bone on the front near my shins (this one feels like sharp pains). Is this normal for Stryde? I don't have these pains on the right leg only the left so I can only guess why...
In terms of ballerina foot, both my feet I am able to get the heel down if I pushed. Right foot is a lot easier to get the heel down, left foot I can get the heel down if my legs are semi-bent, I can't really get the heel down when I'm upright, for the left foot when I try to get the heel down it feels like I am falling backwards.
Yea I am trying to stretch a lot and walk a lot. The problem when I walk is with my left leg, what I do is I have this long couch in which I can stablize myself and hold the couch while practicing to walk. Going one way where the right leg is on the outside and coming back where the right leg is on the inside. Going both ways I have issue with my left leg, I need to limp and hobble while my right leg I can walk just fine. The limp and wobble is partly due to the fact my left leg lands not on the middle of the foot or the back of the foot but on the front of the foot. And for me it is much harder to get the left heel down without feeling like I am going to fall backwards. If my left heel is down I feel like I will fall backwards.
Please see x ray below. My left leg (right side of photo), this is my left leg straight on the ground. Do note my right leg is NOT on the ground, it is slightly elevated so I was able to get both legs in the x ray.
So from my experience walking (or practicing walking) and the x ray photo, it just makes logical sense to me that the misalignment can be the cause. I am not 100% sure, all I can do is take what I experience from my legs and how that experience correlates with x rays I've been taking.
The knee joint pain you have...do you also have a scar from the surgery at that area? Is there some numbness? How long ago is your surgery?
The feeling of falling backwards the problems you describe regarding walking sound familar to me.
Again stretch as much as possible (even if it hurts), I also recommend this kind of device: https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B073W9JCDZ/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
And do as much PT as possible. Because only since I do PT I noticed improvement. Before When I stood straight I would fall backwards if I didn't lean forwards, since I strengthen my muscles I can withstand the falling a bit better. Especially after having stretched my Achilles Tendons, it almost feels normal again. It will take quite some time.
Temaki, thanks for that video, that is really informative. Good share thanks. I have not seen RGKey x rays. Could you help link it here? In terms of pronation.. I'm not sure I will ask next time I'm at the hospital. But blocking screws.. maybe that might have helped in my case. Good video thanks.
Great, can you also help share a link to Jolien's x ray? For the knee pain, at the joint level, no scars, below the joint level where there is also pain, yes scars. My surgery was approx 2.5 months ago. It's not numb.. its pain. And at some of the scar sites I previously didn't have a bump there but after around week 3-4 I can feel 2 bumps on the upper tibia near my knee joint. I call these my bone bumps lol. So I don't know why I have these bone bumps some doctors have said it could be because of screw insertion or nail insertion causing the bone to grow around it and form a bump. But honestly I have no clue. I just have these bone bumps on my left leg near or on the scar sites.
I don't know... I am scratching my head as well as to what is causing the knee pain and also the sharp (feels like nerve pain) pains near my lower left leg shin area. The lower left leg shin area doesnt have any scars, no screws on the front of my leg... but yea it hurts, whenever I exercise it feels like pain coming from inside my bone? the muscles on top of the bone? (could be the nail inside pushing against the bone?) I dont know :[
The feeling of falling backwards only happens on my left leg. My right leg doesnt have this feeling.. so again I can only guess it is due to the alignment.
Quote from: marathonrunner on October 22, 2019, 11:38:30 AM
Great, can you also help share a link to Jolien's x ray? For the knee pain, at the joint level, no scars, below the joint level where there is also pain, yes scars. My surgery was approx 2.5 months ago. It's not numb.. its pain. And at some of the scar sites I previously didn't have a bump there but after around week 3-4 I can feel 2 bumps on the upper tibia near my knee joint. I call these my bone bumps lol. So I don't know why I have these bone bumps some doctors have said it could be because of screw insertion or nail insertion causing the bone to grow around it and form a bump. But honestly I have no clue. I just have these bone bumps on my left leg near or on the scar sites.
I don't know... I am scratching my head as well as to what is causing the knee pain and also the sharp (feels like nerve pain) pains near my lower left leg shin area. The lower left leg shin area doesnt have any scars, no screws on the front of my leg... but yea it hurts, whenever I exercise it feels like pain coming from inside my bone? the muscles on top of the bone? (could be the nail inside pushing against the bone?) I dont know :[
Scroll down to the last pages.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1VNK02DtwgTiOL0AOVq5h4fLHy7RSNwEDq8IXS628psw/edit#heading=h.1vm1pp40gke
Have you considered asking other doctors? Write e-mails to several doctors, describe your problem and the circumstances around it as detailed as possible and send your X-rays and whatever important documents you have that describe the surgery. You could also go to a local orthopedist in your area. It might help to ease your mind.
QuoteThe feeling of falling backwards only happens on my left leg. My right leg doesnt have this feeling.. so again I can only guess it is due to the alignment.
If you want you can post pictures/a video here or via pm so that I can understand what you mean by that. I imagine you mean that when you stand on your right foot (while the left foot only touches the floor with its toes) you don’t feel like falling backwards. But as soon as you put your whole left foot on the floor, you feel like falling?
Have you tried the other way around? Try to stand on only your left foot while touching the floor with only the right foot’s toes. What do you experience?
Quote from: Great321 on October 22, 2019, 11:23:54 AMI'm no expert but I think no matter if LON/LATN or Stryde for tibia. It's basically both a nail inside the tibia which is fixed by screws. If you look at Jolien's latest X-rays you see that her fibulas aren't hold/fixed by any screws. You can ask a doctor but I don't think that fibulas are supposed to be fixed.
The knee joint pain you have...do you also have a scar from the surgery at that area? Is there some numbness? How long ago is your surgery?
The feeling of falling backwards the problems you describe regarding walking sound familar to me.
Again stretch as much as possible (even if it hurts), I also recommend this kind of device: https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B073W9JCDZ/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
And do as much PT as possible. Because only since I do PT I noticed improvement. Before When I stood straight I would fall backwards if I didn't lean forwards, since I strengthen my muscles I can withstand the falling a bit better. Especially after having stretched my Achilles Tendons, it almost feels normal again. It will take quite some time.
Jolien didn’t have big muscles and did Externals
Women usually have softer and weaker muscles which may not pull back too much
But anyways experienced doctors do put screws even with externals to hold fibulas since they’ve been aware of the risk of not holding it
With external, some doctors think it’s ok with pins, but pins are not strong enough to hold back against big muscles
Doctors who are practicing old methods don’t put screws, not aware of the risks
If fibula ends up shorter, that can also be a cause of pronation and flat feet because it changes the alignment in ankles
Also this will be stressful to the knees, even if there’s no pain yet, later on can cause premature arthritis
marathonrunner whatever you find out from a 2nd opinion from an LL and deformity correction specialist please keep the thread updated. Otherwise new readers will think what forum members wrote is gospel.
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