I know being seen as the “tall guy” might have made you get treated better in some ways but I don’t think going to around average height made your life as bad as you think. I think attributing your height to everything is not good, but I don’t know everything about your life and the mindset you have. You seem like you have other parts of your life in order which is good and that’s a great starting point. Ultimately the decision is yours to go through with a surgery like this but I personally don’t think it will make a big Difference.
Just some anecdotal experience from me: I have some friends who range from 5’10” -6’2/6’3” and the difference is not that big to me or others. There is also a co worker I have who is not even 6 feet, he’s 5’10” or 5’11” at most and my other coworkers referred to him as the “tall guy”. Keep in mind this is in Canada though.
Quote from: informationispower on September 11, 2022, 09:18:39 PMThe "bitter short guys who are jealous of your height" and went forward with the surgery are actually the only normal people here. Of course, listen to guys who are average height or even above and struggle with women.. They sure know what's best.
You are 180cm. You are not short, realistically speaking, and knowing if this surgery is worth for you is something only you can answer. But don't listen to the average height lunatics around here who usually 95% of the time don't ever go forward and do the surgery and just stick around endlessly fantasizing about how 1-2 inches will magically turn them from basement dwellers into chick magnets.
Only average height or above people I know are a few and there is someone called optimus on cyborg4life channel that did an interview recently. But also in his case, he was a 175cm man with a weight of 245 pounds (which is atleast 110kg I think). Instead of just dieting and stop being extremely fat he went on the broke his legs
Hi informationispower,
I’m not negative to anyone. Everyone on this forum knows more than me at this point and I’d love to hear all opinions and advice.
We’re all here with the same goal of getting taller and a part of the same community.
Thank you for telling me about the Cyborg4Life channel, I will be going through his videos.
Are there any other channels or sites or podcasts I should watch, read or listen to?
Quote from: google42 on September 11, 2022, 09:58:32 PMI know being seen as the “tall guy” might have made you get treated better in some ways but I don’t think going to around average height made your life as bad as you think. I think attributing your height to everything is not good, but I don’t know everything about your life and the mindset you have. You seem like you have other parts of your life in order which is good and that’s a great starting point. Ultimately the decision is yours to go through with a surgery like this but I personally don’t think it will make a big Difference.
Just some anecdotal experience from me: I have some friends who range from 5’10” -6’2/6’3” and the difference is not that big to me or others. There is also a co worker I have who is not even 6 feet, he’s 5’10” or 5’11” at most and my other coworkers referred to him as the “tall guy”. Keep in mind this is in Canada though.
This surgery is definitely drastic. With the risks, and investment of time and money required, I don’t see it ever becoming mainstream. Orthopaedics is definitely not like plastic surgery, even though this is a cosmetic procedure for us, where you can walk out with the results, pun intended on “walking out”.
I am trying to weigh if personally the rewards are worth the year commit given I want to do two segments if I go through with this. I just don’t see what else to improve at this point, and I want to love the best life I possibly can.bAnd I’m not afraid of doing drastic things.
I’m Australian and the average height here is around 178cm. I think we are the same?
It’s an interesting anecdote thank you. The only times I’m called tall is if I’m with my female colleagues and they say “you’re tall can you grab this for me”. Definitely not around guys.
My advice:
* If you're moderately competitive at sports, I recommend against this surgery. A fit 5'9" and above guy is way more attractive than a 6' skinny fragile dude. Let alone you're 5'11.
* If your height dysphoria is real AND you live in those well known tallest EU countries, I recommend <= 5cm femurs and <= 4cm tibias. From your original height you should not need more than this gain limit. This was what I did and at my much shorter height, I feel comfortable now after LL (nails still in my legs). So at your height proportionally it should feel like a minor impact to your body/stamina/etc - you get the point.
Quote from: motoboarder on September 11, 2022, 10:50:28 PMMy advice:
* If you're moderately competitive at sports, I recommend against this surgery. A fit 5'9" and above guy is way more attractive than a 6' skinny fragile dude. Let alone you're 5'11.
* If your height dysphoria is real AND you live in those well known tallest EU countries, I recommend <= 5cm femurs and <= 4cm tibias. From your original height you should not need more than this gain limit. This was what I did and at my much shorter height, I feel comfortable now after LL (nails still in my legs). So at your height proportionally it should feel like a minor impact to your body/stamina/etc - you get the point.
I play volleyball competitively twice a week and basketball regularly with friends.
Is a full recovery possible if I don’t go past 15% per segment?
Sport is a huge part of my life and I also meet up with my girlfriend most mornings for jogging. I want to be able to keep doing this post surgery.
I do feel like my height betrayed me when doctors and everyone told me I’d be taller than I reached. I genuinely feel like the body I’m in isn’t the height of the body I should be in.
I live in Australia. The average height here is around 178cm
If I do your Lower recommendations per segment will the recovery be 100%?
Ultimately, just want to share my personal sentiment: I'm barely 5'8 now AFTER LL and I feel TALL everyday going out, to restaurants, groceries, parks, etc. Guys, You have so so many aspects that make up you: a good height, make yourself good looking, stay fit, hit the gym, grow clean hair, trim a good bear, be modest, talk slowly and grammatically correct like a gentleman, etc. Zillions of things, height is just one.
Don't blame on your height for everything. Do best at your other aspects before addressing your height dysphoria and considering LL. Like many experienced LLers on this forum already pointed out, it's a very drastic experience not for the faint of heart or the shallow of mind. Personally, my subconscious took me to LL research around 2018. I finally did it in 2022. It's a 4y self assessment.
Quote from: BeyondAverage on September 11, 2022, 10:58:04 PMI play volleyball competitively twice a week and basketball regularly with friends.
Is a full recovery possible if I don’t go past 15% per segment?
... meet up with my girlfriend most mornings for jogging. I want to be able to keep doing this post surgery.
If I do your Lower recommendations per segment will the recovery be 100%?
Basketball is definitely a concern. Your knee strength will decline certain degrees no matter how much you lengthen.. I think, at least beyond 3cm any segment -as a personal gauge. The side to side movement in basketball is extreme on the knees. If I were you I'd consider skipping this surgery.
Jogging is fine for the lower limit I recommend. You should do fine on this aspect post LL.
From my personal experience of what I feel now + countless of prior LLers' diaries I have digested, NO ONE ever recovered 100% after LL. You have to accept the reality of some declines in your body fitness.
Quote from: motoboarder on September 11, 2022, 11:10:09 PMUltimately, just want to share my personal sentiment: I'm barely 5'8 now AFTER LL and I feel TALL everyday going out, to restaurants, groceries, parks, etc. Guys, You have so so many aspects that make up you: a good height, make yourself good looking, stay fit, hit the gym, grow clean hair, trim a good bear, be modest, talk slowly and grammatically correct like a gentleman, etc. Zillions of things, height is just one.
Don't blame on your height for everything. Do best at your other aspects before addressing your height dysphoria and considering LL. Like many experienced LLers on this forum already pointed out, it's a very drastic experience not for the faint of heart or the shallow of mind. Personally, my subconscious took me to LL research around 2018. I finally did it in 2022. It's a 4y self assessment.
May I ask which country you’re living in? Feel free to reject if it’s personal information you don’t wish to share.
Congratulations on your successful surgery. Is your mobility and athleticism the same as pre LL?
I agree there’s a lot we can improve upon. I have a career, home, girlfriend, happy social life. I don’t know what else to work on besides LL to make my circumstances better. But if I can walk out in public tall instead of average I think that will be a nice improvement.
But there is a big risk I’m worried about. I haven’t told my girlfriend about these plans yet. I don’t know if her opinion of me will change. I don’t want to ruin a part of my life to improve another.
Quote from: motoboarder on September 11, 2022, 11:10:09 PMUltimately, just want to share my personal sentiment: I'm barely 5'8 now AFTER LL and I feel TALL everyday going out, to restaurants, groceries, parks, etc. Guys, You have so so many aspects that make up you: a good height, make yourself good looking, stay fit, hit the gym, grow clean hair, trim a good bear, be modest, talk slowly and grammatically correct like a gentleman, etc. Zillions of things, height is just one.
Don't blame on your height for everything. Do best at your other aspects before addressing your height dysphoria and considering LL. Like many experienced LLers on this forum already pointed out, it's a very drastic experience not for the faint of heart or the shallow of mind. Personally, my subconscious took me to LL research around 2018. I finally did it in 2022. It's a 4y self assessment.
You did mention that where you are from, 5'8 is considered tall though. Or are you kiving in the west?
Quote from: informationispower on September 11, 2022, 11:18:38 PMYou did mention that where you are from, 5'8 is considered tall though. Or are you kiving in the west?
Haha nice catch. I live in the US permanently now. So yes, I do personally feel tall - for me - in the US. No one here would say I'm tall for sure. But what's more important is that I'm fulfilled with myself. This is the true goal that I think any LLers should aim to reach if you undergo this very brutal process.
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