So,
Basicaly you get 1cm during the operation, then you start clicking since the first day of surgery (there is not waiting period like I see here with other doctors). Clicking using the conventional method was easy for me for the first 2 days, but now at postop day 5,6 it has become harder for me. This is not due to pain, but due to my muscles being tight so I need to stay at that annoying position for more time until they relax. This increased stress a little, as one time I got a muscle contracting at the clicking position, heard the click, but it hurt as the muscle just contracted suddenly. ANY TIPS?
Guichet wants you to train all the time, and he says losing the most muscle is in the first week, so he wants you to do as hard as you can the first week (I was on the Eliptical machine the day after surgery).
At postop day 5, my legs were much stronger now (before, in order to raise them from the bed I need to do the first lift with my hands. Now I can control them better with my mind even without needing to kickstart them with a hand movement. Also I can move them much faster and stronger.
I have duckass since day 1 after op (anybody else had that so soon?
I am using the walker and now I feel pretty good with it. In order to train my walking (and not just lifting my body with my arms) I was suggested by Guichet to "Catwalk" - basically you walk leg crossing leg. He says if you walk like that since early stage, you will not get wide legs.
In my first week, I wasted all my strength on things that didn't contribute to my healing (entering a taxi took me 20 mins and sitting on the toiliet 15 mins). I was also very stressed from these things. Now I found better ways to do them (ordering a van and not regular taxi, getting a toilet sit lift).
I still keep my helper with me 24h, but for the last two days she went away for some hours so that's also an improvement.
Currently my biggest challenge is to find a way to click fast enough so I will not miss clicking sessions (I missed some already), whilst still keeping up with the crazy daily routine (2 gym training a day X2H, daily tests, and aslo eating 4k calories a day, taking all vitamins and supplements that Guichet requires.
All I care about is being as most efficient as I can, and continue lengthening.
How do you have ur helper 24/7? Does she go away in her room until you need her or she's besides your bed all the time?
Quote from: LengtheningDream on January 22, 2023, 10:21:52 AMHow do you have ur helper 24/7? Does she go away in her room until you need her or she's besides your bed all the time?
I took an apartment with a big sofa bed in the living room. She is staying there. I believe I don't need 24h anymore since I feel much comfortable now and less stress. But having the first night at the hospital was amazing (nurses to move my legs and help me). And since 2nd night helper until night 5 helped me feel more relaxed.
I will keep her just for the day this week. And she is preparing all meals for me (amazing food)
Quote from: ten on January 22, 2023, 09:50:57 AMThanks for sharing your experience.
As part of his stats did he share the number of deaths that have happened among his patients? If he didn't that would be quite disingenuous.
I didn't realise you're early in your journey and so sorry if this question was not in good taste.
I was just trying to respond to how you said the doc shows stats but I'm not sure if he shows all his prospective patients all the complications including death (there has been at least one). From what I know, he doesn't list this.
Anyway, most of his patients lengthen and recover the fastest among most doctors and I'm sure you'll fall into that category too. Good luck! Is this in Milano or Londra?
Quote from: ten on January 22, 2023, 01:57:09 PMI didn't realise you're early in your journey and so sorry if this question was not in good taste.
I was just trying to respond to how you said the doc shows stats but I'm not sure if he shows all his prospective patients all the complications including death (there has been at least one). From what I know, he doesn't list this.
Anyway, most of his patients lengthen and recover the fastest among most doctors and I'm sure you'll fall into that category too. Good luck! Is this in Milano or Londra?
Hi Ten,
Sure no worries 
I know there has been a death with other docs as well. Death is not included in his statistics as a parameter, but I have asked him. He did not hide it from me and basically answered that there was one patient that ever died and that was due to things relevant to compression stocking and other things that the patient did not comply with.
I then discussed Guichet regarding the major complications (like thrombosis, and PE). He gave me very good explanations to how he deals with them in his protocol, and at what parts of the process they become a risk (not all of them are relevant and there are specific timeframes in which they could happen. (after my surgery, I was actually rolled to an ultrasound machine that scanned my major arteries for PE), Guichet said that risk something you would already know about right after surgery and they are carefully checking for this.
Being here in this situation, I try to comply with everything he says. When you are sent to an apartment even at the day of surgery, you are on your own. This can be highly risky. This is why you must fully comply and understand everything, there are so many details however that sometimes its not easy to do (you are not in your optimal state - you are disabled and after a major surgery). So - I can also understand why individuals could get to complications, basically if you fall into depression and staying away from the protocol, or the opposite (being too active and doing too much activities or the wrong ones and breaking something or the nail), I could have easily fallen out of one of these taxis.
Currently in Milan
Guys any tips for clicking better and easier are welcomed! Please assist me if you have the knowledge.
Also how can I make my muscles less stiff. I am doing the regular stuff like bike exercise and stretching but still they are super hard to manuver.
I am at postop day 5
There is this video if you've not seen it already
I remember reading a Betz diary where the dude did his clicking in a bathtub with warm water. I have 0 experience though
If you do so much therapy, gym and all that, could you ask those guys to do your clicking when you're there?
Quote from: WishMeLuck on January 22, 2023, 04:00:51 PMGuys any tips for clicking better and easier are welcomed! Please assist me if you have the knowledge.
Also how can I make my muscles less stiff. I am doing the regular stuff like bike exercise and stretching but still they are super hard to manuver.
I am at postop day 5
If I can help… I did Gnail in August with Giotikas. You seem to have had the same issue I had in clicking as in at about day 4 or 5 (can’t remember exactly), I started having great difficulty in “finding” the click and was ending up straining all my legs in the effort.
I was using the “conventional” that they teach you in hospital. That didn’t work for me.
See the videos below and perhaps go read around page 3 or 4 of my diary for a detailed explanation on “how” I managed to execute those (super duper slowly).
If you do it slowly is really almost painless.
See videos below
LEFT LEG
https://streamable.com/z4xgzo
RIGHT LEG
https://streamable.com/l4ys7j
Hope this helps.
Quote from: OzBoy39 on January 22, 2023, 09:20:07 PMIf I can help… I did Gnail in August with Giotikas. You seem to have had the same issue I had in clicking as in at about day 4 or 5 (can’t remember exactly), I started having great difficulty in “finding” the click and was ending up straining all my legs in the effort.
I was using the “conventional” that they teach you in hospital. That didn’t work for me.
See the videos below and perhaps go read around page 3 or 4 of my diary for a detailed explanation on “how” I managed to execute those (super duper slowly).
If you do it slowly is really almost painless.
See videos below
LEFT LEG
https://streamable.com/z4xgzo
RIGHT LEG
https://streamable.com/l4ys7j
Hope this helps.
Oz thanks a lot my friend! I am checking out your videos. I actually don't have an issue holding my legs like you do over there, but it is quite scary to twist it like that. I need to practice but it looks like a good alternative. Did you have any boundaries before you were able to do that?
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