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Posted on Oct 24, 2022, 9:26 pm
#81

Quote from: lessthanavg8300 on October 24, 2022, 08:15:16 PMThe hotel looks awesome.  I wasnt sure what to expect, now I'm really excited.  Im doing the same as you with first class tickets.  The process is intense, might as well make the whole experience as comfortable as possible.


Nice man. Yeah the hotel is great. And yes it’s very intense lol. You have to actually work to get the results you want!

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Posted on Oct 24, 2022, 9:27 pm
#82

Quote from: lessthanavg8300 on October 24, 2022, 08:15:16 PMThe hotel looks awesome.  I wasnt sure what to expect, now I'm really excited.  Im doing the same as you with first class tickets.  The process is intense, might as well make the whole experience as comfortable as possible.

First class here as well, love it! My friend got drunk on champagne 🥂

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Posted on Oct 24, 2022, 9:32 pm
#83

Yeah it’s the whole experience with Becker:

- up to 12cm although most tibia guys do only 10cm

- clicking mechanism

- full weight bearing nail

- luxury hotel / physical therapy clinic

- best price on the market! (56k euro for tibia)

- amazing post-op support.

Tanja is so cool, she comes by every few days and talks with me for like 30 minutes and just puts me in such a good positive mood.

I’d say if you have the time and can allocate 30 days in Germany for surgery and physical therapy, Becker is definitely the way to go!



Quote from: SpeedDialer on October 24, 2022, 09:16:20 PMI was thinking for people who can afford first class tickets and want to do internal tibias, basically the decision is sort of between

Guichet vs Betz(Becker) vs Paley vs a doctor closest to you

And the issue with Paley is that your option is Precise 2 and the 5 cm limit that Dr. Paley recommends (unless you want to do 4 then rebreak and do 4 later) and the long amount of time in being in a wheelchair. Not sure if Paley lets people do more than 5cm on tibias in one go?

If you go with Guichet, well I don't know what option he does for internal tibias. The thing really confusing me is that in Athens, they told us that the G- nail cannot be used on tibias and they don't let us do that here.

However, on guichet's website, it says he uses G-nail on tibias
https://drguichet.com/article/11071/guichetr-nail/?lan=en
"The femur, tibia and humerus are the bones in which it is possible to use the nail Guichet®"

If you go with tibias Betzbone in Germany, I believe (correct me if I'm wrong) its cheaper than Paley tibias or Guichet  tibias and you can do more than 5cm on tibias on in one go if you want to attempt that. And you still get the ability to walk sooner and less pain than femurs probably.

And then there is the question of "should I even want to do more than 5-6 cm?" People using the clicking tibia nails seem to do more than 5 cm more often, but I do not understand the medical/biomechanical reasons why this is achieved more often with clicking tibia nails. I wonder if the ability to walk more early for them helps with ballerina foot alot ---but I wonder if that guess is incorrect and if there is a totally different reason

I sort see why Apotheosis of the old forum went with Betz. I can't remember what the controversy over Betz was years ago though

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Posted on Oct 24, 2022, 9:33 pm
#84

Quote from: maxheight35 on October 24, 2022, 05:45:45 PM
The hotel staff instantly offers to help which is really great!


Also, started clicking and wow it’s very weird and feels crazy lol. I setup a timer and will record every few days on each leg. Check the new IG story / highlight!

You’re very lucky with the hotel and physio.  I was at the Krankenhaus hospital (with terrible food and grumpy staff, I had to hide my friend in the bathroom at times because they were nazis with visiting hours) and had to escape the hospital during the day and stay at the holiday inn because of the intense heat and lack of ac.  Since I was already better and just sitting at the hospital one weekend  (day 11 post op) where physio wasn’t coming neither betz or his assistant, I decided to just escape for one night to holiday inn and spend the night there entirely.  I don’t think nursing noticed I was gone, came back the next day at noon, lol.  It seems like their operation and support staff got way better in Freiburg.  I never met Tanja or most of the names on here.  My physio was a guy coming for 15 min to my hospital bed and that’s it.  Half the time no one came.  Freiburg seems to be a dream compared to st ingbert.  No extra fisio outside the hospital was included in my price.

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Posted on Oct 24, 2022, 9:44 pm
#85

What made you do tibias over femurs?  Proportions?  Are you doing both segments?

Nevermind I just read your intro, you're doing both.  Thats going to be so wild (in a good way).  Like standing on a ladder lol.  Im just doing femurs.

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Posted on Oct 24, 2022, 9:47 pm
#86

Oh man that sucks! Yeah Becker definitely has a proper setup! You ever think about doing another surgery? I might do femurs next year after I finish tibias.




Quote from: leonazul99 on October 24, 2022, 09:33:58 PMYou’re very lucky with the hotel and physio.  I was at the Krankenhaus hospital (with terrible food and grumpy staff) and had to escape the hospital during the day and stay at the holiday inn because of the intense heat and lack of ac.  Since I was already better and just sitting at the hospital one weekend  (day 11 post op) where physio wasn’t coming neither betz or his assistant, I decided to just escape for one night to holiday inn and spend the night there entirely.  I don’t think nursing noticed I was gone, came back the next day at noon, lol.  It seems like their operation and support staff got way better in Freiburg.  I never met Tanja or most of the names on here.  My physio was a guy coming for 15 min to my hospital bed and that’s it.  Half the time no one came.  Freiburg seems to be a dream compared to st ingbert.  No extra fisio outside the hospital was included in my price.

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Posted on Oct 24, 2022, 9:50 pm
#87

Quote from: lessthanavg8300 on October 24, 2022, 09:44:03 PMWhat made you do tibias over femurs?  Proportions?  Are you doing both segments?

Nevermind I just read your intro, you're doing both.  Thats going to be so wild (in a good way).  Like standing on a ladder lol.  Im just doing femurs.



LOL… yeah man. 5,3” is just too small for a guy in todays world and now that I feel comfortable with the doc, surgery, post op, etc I might as well get the max gains!

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Posted on Oct 24, 2022, 10:01 pm
#88

I hear you, 5'3 is a tough life.  You're making the right decision.

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Posted on Oct 25, 2022, 5:18 pm
#89

Quote from: maxheight35 on October 24, 2022, 09:32:06 PM- up to 12cm although most tibia guys do only 10cm

Did you meet people who have done 10cm on tibia? How's their recovery?

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Posted on Oct 25, 2022, 5:51 pm
#90

Now I am really curious about the LL doctors who limit 5-6 on tibias cm, I'm curious what they think of people doing 7+ cm on tibias with clicking tibia nails + walking after 1 month. And vice versa, I wonder what Guichet and Becker think of precise patients usually doing 5-6 cm limits. What I don't understand is in Athens why they offer a clicking femur nail but not a weight bearing clicking tibia nail

I hope cyborg4life asks Dr. Paley or Dr. Giotikas or Dr. Becker etc about this in a future interview

Actually you know what, let's PM cyborg4life to ask if he can interview Dr. Becker, I'm gonna do that right now, I feel like he would do it if enough of us PM him

http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?action=profile;u=7753

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