I think LLT's biggest issue is the consistent lying, at a point where they tell more lies than truths
Regardless of how unethical it becomes, the team will lie, cheat, scream at patients to make the things exactly how they want it
Additionally, LLT don't really care about the patients, nor do they do much to support the patients
99% of the time spent with patients is to film instagram stories
LON Femur 7.5cm with halil buldu may 13th, 2021 God-Willing
Quote from: SirStretchAlot on October 05, 2021, 04:27:39 AMI'm sorry for being such a dik but doing externals in a developing country was the main issue here. Buldu's agency was obviously unscrupulous, but you were partially responsible for all this misery because you wanted to save money. I just didn't feel any sense of self-responsibility in your writing, just that Buldu's agents were evil, and they are. However, your choices ultimately decide what happens to your body.
I had a loose screw with Betz after the initial surgery. The moment he saw it on the Xray, I was sent in the surgery room to fix it next morning. This probably had something to do with me having paid triple for internals in Germany compared to externals in Turkey.
Paley with externals only had 2% higher infection rate than he did with internals. They disinfect the wound much more frequently and professionally.
I really feel sorry for all of your misgivings, but this is just another reminder for everyone not to trust doctors with agents in developing countries. You probably would've saved 50% if everything went right. But if something went wrong, those savings will be last things you'll regret.
Lol I didn’t take offense to anything you said, even paley wrote me in an email “you get what you pay for” you guys are completely right
Buldu did fix the complication for free. I could have afforded to do it in the USA but it would have been a huge chunk of my savings. Being 23 and working so hard to save that first 100k it’s not something you want to let go of just to have a surgery that will make you 3 inches taller. That was my attitude at that time, now I feel like I should’ve just went and did precice with giotikas or parihar for 45k-50k total.
Also this post wasn’t to really complain, it was more supposed to be an eye opener. LLT makes everything look nice and dandy, they try to seduce you. Like the photo of the patient with the bent pins, his before and after photo shows him starting at 5’8 next to sedat and he is 181cm in the after photo towering after him. Anyone looking at it is probably like “wow that’s great” but they don’t know what I know, that patient is one of my friends I made over there and he had 2 extra surgeries for complications ( bent pins and failing nail) and had the fixators on for 4 months. He went through hell. No one knows what it’s like to have femur fixators on, each day feels like forever. You start to lose your sanity due to all the discomfort. He just started walking unassisted slightly at the 6 month mark and has a long way to go to walk normal.
I made this post so people see the reality of what happens there and what’s behind their post. They post stuff that makes everything look like flowers and butterflies in reality it’s bullcrap
Thanks for this post.
I think we should be vary of any place which markets this procedure excessively. Someone had a broken femur after nail removal in the US and I bet that doctor will not post anything about that in their marketing. They will just put before and after pics lol.
Quote from: Activatedxx on October 05, 2021, 02:13:28 PMLol I didn’t take offense to anything you said, even paley wrote me in an email “you get what you pay for” you guys are completely right
Buldu did fix the complication for free. I could have afforded to do it in the USA but it would have been a huge chunk of my savings. Being 23 and working so hard to save that first 100k it’s not something you want to let go of just to have a surgery that will make you 3 inches taller. That was my attitude at that time, now I feel like I should’ve just went and did precice with giotikas or parihar for 45k-50k total.
Also this post wasn’t to really complain, it was more supposed to be an eye opener. LLT makes everything look nice and dandy, they try to seduce you. Like the photo of the patient with the bent pins, his before and after photo shows him starting at 5’8 next to sedat and he is 181cm in the after photo towering after him. Anyone looking at it is probably like “wow that’s great” but they don’t know what I know, that patient is one of my friends I made over there and he had 2 extra surgeries for complications ( bent pins and failing nail) and had the fixators on for 4 months. He went through hell. No one knows what it’s like to have femur fixators on, each day feels like forever. You start to lose your sanity due to all the discomfort. He just started walking unassisted slightly at the 6 month mark and has a long way to go to walk normal.
I made this post so people see the reality of what happens there and what’s behind their post. They post stuff that makes everything look like flowers and butterflies in reality it’s bullcrap
Totally feel you bro. Sorry for being such a dck. Your misfortune are for all of us to learn from. You did everyone in the LL world a huge favour by posting the truth behind Livelifetaller.
Quote from: Activatedxx on October 05, 2021, 02:13:28 PMLol I didn’t take offense to anything you said, even paley wrote me in an email “you get what you pay for” you guys are completely right
Buldu did fix the complication for free. I could have afforded to do it in the USA but it would have been a huge chunk of my savings. Being 23 and working so hard to save that first 100k it’s not something you want to let go of just to have a surgery that will make you 3 inches taller. That was my attitude at that time, now I feel like I should’ve just went and did precice with giotikas or parihar for 45k-50k total.
Also this post wasn’t to really complain, it was more supposed to be an eye opener. LLT makes everything look nice and dandy, they try to seduce you. Like the photo of the patient with the bent pins, his before and after photo shows him starting at 5’8 next to sedat and he is 181cm in the after photo towering after him. Anyone looking at it is probably like “wow that’s great” but they don’t know what I know, that patient is one of my friends I made over there and he had 2 extra surgeries for complications ( bent pins and failing nail) and had the fixators on for 4 months. He went through hell. No one knows what it’s like to have femur fixators on, each day feels like forever. You start to lose your sanity due to all the discomfort. He just started walking unassisted slightly at the 6 month mark and has a long way to go to walk normal.
I made this post so people see the reality of what happens there and what’s behind their post. They post stuff that makes everything look like flowers and butterflies in reality it’s bullcrap
I know exactly who you're talking about. Even when I saw that photo My first thought was "man he's been there for a long time". Aldo if you look closer he's being held up and not standing on his own 100%
Quote from: SirStretchAlot on October 06, 2021, 03:53:33 AMTotally feel you bro. Sorry for being such a dck. Your misfortune are for all of us to learn from. You did everyone in the LL world a huge favour by posting the truth behind Livelifetaller.
You didn’t say anything offensive, and even if I can help one person with this post that’s enough for me
Quote from: Growing on October 06, 2021, 04:39:16 AMI know exactly who you're talking about. Even when I saw that photo My first thought was "man he's been there for a long time". Aldo if you look closer he's being held up and not standing on his own 100%
Yes sadly his muscles atrophied to a really high degree and the trauma from 4 surgeries slowed his recovery even more. He’s a great guy and his story behind why he got LL made me kinda sad for him. I wish him the best and pray for him
Quote from: Activatedxx on October 06, 2021, 05:05:44 AMYes sadly his muscles atrophied to a really high degree and the trauma from 4 surgeries slowed his recovery even more. He’s a great guy and his story behind why he got LL made me kinda sad for him. I wish him the best and pray for him
damn.. Crazy part is he wasn't really actually short. 5'8 isn't bad.. But I definitely understand being slightly under 5'9 with no shoes.
good post. it was clear to me though. its always fake when its all perfect.
Quote from: tripleogkush on October 07, 2021, 12:56:06 PMgood post. it was clear to me though. its always fake when its all perfect.
Yeah I didn’t expect it to be perfect. At the time I was looking for a well rounded experienced doctor. I didn’t realize experience doesnt translate to success. An experienced doctor that treats something like an assembly line is going to have way more issues than someone less experienced or like parihar who only takes a small amount per year and pays more attention to details
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