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Posted on Nov 27, 2017, 4:48 pm
#11

Dont do it, 5,8 is a pretty normal height on most countries.

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Posted on Nov 27, 2017, 6:19 pm
#12

Think about it a lot,Vietnam is a third world country like India and asian countries.
We don't know anything of LL in Vietnam neither have reliable diaries.And we're talking about a single segment,figure out quadrilateral
I would suggest you to save more money and choose Europe or USA

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Posted on Nov 27, 2017, 6:22 pm
#13

Quote from: normythebear on November 27, 2017, 01:25:22 PMRegarding FDR101, I don't know how it is with Paley, et al, and how they do things doesn't affect me, because I can't afford them anyway. While I'm at it, why don't I complain about my Toyota Prius because it can't do things $100k cars can do. The point I'm trying to make is that this is my option. I want the surgery done in a time frame that I can live with, because with graduate school and medical school coming up, I am not getting rich any time soon. The time to act is now, and if the doctor wants to take x-rays the day of the surgery, so be it. Yes, maybe it is a risk, but being looked down upon both physically and metaphorically, is something I don't want in my life any more. I'm not proud of the lack of confidence I feel when females are taller than me. I'm not proud of being uncomfortably conscious of the fact that I'm the shortest among my friend group. Yes, here in Vietnam, I'm a good height. Back in the US, I'm not. And I don't want this height problem undermining my confidence until I'm 50 and I can finally afford someone who does things different. So, is this standard practice in Vietnam? I guess so, but I have months of millimeter by millimeter lengthening for both him and I to figure out what length is ideal. So, whether it happen tomorrow morning, or 5 months ago, it doesn't really matter until those frames are on my legs.

You may get a limping problem undermining your confidence forever after that. I hope your research was enough. Remember to do stretching exercises and to not overlength.

With all that said, I wish you the best of luck if you're really doing this. I'd personally not do LL at your height.

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Posted on Nov 27, 2017, 6:58 pm
#14

normythebear-

Oh boy, here we go, you are just another future cripple to add to the pile from third world doctors who have no idea what the f*ck they are doing.

Surgery is tomorrow and you still don't know if you are doing LON/LATN/Fully External. Great! You and your doctor sound very intelligent and well prepared.

My favorite part of this ingenuous plan of yours is that you intend on doing LON on your femurs after you finish lengthening your tibia's. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! LON on femurs. Genius, you are a pure genius. Only a complete moron would ever consider LON on their femurs. Any doctor who even offers that as an option should have their medical license revoked and forced to clean up public toilets for the rest of their life.

Don't worry, I'm sure you'll turn out just fine, and think about all the money you're saving by having this done in a third world sh*t hole like Vietnam. Good thing too, cause you'll sure as hell need that extra cash since you will spend the rest of your life as an unemployed cripple. Constantly in need of assistance just to go shopping, make a meal, or wipe your ass.

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Posted on Nov 27, 2017, 7:29 pm
#15

Actually, let me do a second post. If you need to reconsider, now it's the time. You may be in Vietnam, but you can still go back. Use the trip just to give you a perspective of how tall you actually are. You should be taller than 90% of the males there.

174cm is an absolutely fine height. I don't think you should risk your mobility at that height.

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Posted on Nov 27, 2017, 7:39 pm
#16

Thanks for answering, normythebear.

Can you tell us more about your quadrilateral lengthening process? Is it bilateral tibias then femur after a few weeks, cross lengthening (e.g. left tibia and right femur then vice versa), or all segments at once? Frames on femurs sound like hell, add tibias to that and it'll be quite an experience. But hey, Overdozer did it (cross-lateral lengthening).

To those that say 5'8" is fine, I agree. It's still below average, but I'm 5'5" in the US and I'd love that to be my starting height. At his height I'd probably just get internal femurs if I felt the need (or just get by with insoles), but a lot of us are here for cosmetic reasons, and that means it's OK to want to go from "(about) average" to "above average." And to say he's taller than most in other countries... Well, what's the point if you plan to live and die in your home country?

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Posted on Nov 27, 2017, 7:46 pm
#17

I understand your points, Android, but he is not doing PRECICE with Paley... he is doing quadrilateral in Vietnam, down to external femurs.

QuoteBut hey, Overdozer did it
Overdozer also described external femurs as hell on Earth.

He should do at most 5cm in his tibias and get out.

It also doesn't matter that his home country is the US: 174cm is not a bad height there. He's a bit shorter than some white girls and shorter than his male friends, I guess? Is that enough to risk all what quadrilateral LL in Vietnam entails?

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Posted on Nov 27, 2017, 8:43 pm
#18

Quote from: myloginacct on November 27, 2017, 07:46:23 PMI understand your points, Android, but he is not doing PRECICE with Paley... he is doing quadrilateral in Vietnam, down to external femurs.

Overdozer also described external femurs as hell on Earth.

He should do at most 5cm in his tibias and get out.

It also doesn't matter that his home country is the US: 174cm is not a bad height there. He's a bit shorter than some white girls and shorter than his male friends, I guess? Is that enough to risk all what quadrilateral LL in Vietnam entails?

Starting a journal a day before surgery to me signals that the ship has sailed. He could very well be sleeping right now in a hospital bed. With this mindset, all I can do is encourage and ask as many questions as he's willing to answer.

Though yes, he could totally just get his tibias done and get out before the hellish external femurs. Not bad advice at all.

If it makes any difference, I've been PM'd for advice and dissuaded people from going to this exact clinic precisely because there's so little information about it. Hopefully this diary will shed some light to set the record straight, and I wish the best for him.

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Posted on Nov 27, 2017, 10:25 pm
#19

This is exactly the reason why people are hesitant to post diaries. Some of you are too harsh.

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Posted on Nov 27, 2017, 11:07 pm
#20

I do hope and wish the best for him. I just think of certain diaries in the forums. People need to be absolutely aware of what they're doing, what CLL is, and what are the risks. People get here from Google and don't do enough research; the information is also all spread out. Etc.

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