well in that case I can help, This is Asainns reply when I ask the same question,
"Doctor Thuy had retired. When I came back I have doctor Khoi to took the nails out for me. The result is good. I believe every doctor they have there is experiences and have good skill. I have 4 friends that did with doctor Khoi and all turn out great. I'm going real good. I can sit on the ground and stand up, squat, jump, club dance,....I lift my girlfriend by my arms around the house. I was nervous about it but then nothing happen. I dont have any discomfort by doing so and she weight about 60 kg. I also do heavy lifting at the gym too. I just came back to my normal life 100% without any problems. Some people ask me about knees pain, honestly I dont have any, even climb on stair or dancin or doing heavy activity. My sister has none too. And all of my 4 friends also recovery well without it."
Quote from: dean9191 on December 14, 2017, 11:59:39 PMwell in that case I can help, This is Asainns reply when I ask the same question,
"Doctor Thuy had retired. When I came back I have doctor Khoi to took the nails out for me. The result is good. I believe every doctor they have there is experiences and have good skill. I have 4 friends that did with doctor Khoi and all turn out great. I'm going real good. I can sit on the ground and stand up, squat, jump, club dance,....I lift my girlfriend by my arms around the house. I was nervous about it but then nothing happen. I dont have any discomfort by doing so and she weight about 60 kg. I also do heavy lifting at the gym too. I just came back to my normal life 100% without any problems. Some people ask me about knees pain, honestly I dont have any, even climb on stair or dancin or doing heavy activity. My sister has none too. And all of my 4 friends also recovery well without it."
That is just excellent news!
but this is too good to be true. maybe he had a very good recovery coz he was 18
Hey, everyone. Sorry for not responding for a while. I'm on day 17. Been lengthening for about 5 days now at 1mm per day. There is still quite a bit of pain. Not the sharp stabbing pain like in the days after the surgery, but lots of aches and discomforts. I go in for another x-ray tomorrow. I haven't been responding because the pain makes it difficult to concentrate or even care about anything. However, the scars seem to be healing nicely. My knees are very stiff to bend, and when I do they ache like crazy. I don't know if the pain means I should stop bending them, or if I should bend them more often. I'm guessing this is normal, since the nail and pins seem to be placed properly based off my research, and those are the only things I can think of that would mechanically affect mobility.
I actually had another response typed up in Microsoft Word where I complained about pain, and expressed self-pity about my life and decisions. I've moved from the hospital to "The Institute", where there is longer-term care. The doctor that performed the surgery has visited me here. I'm still mostly pleased with the quality of service here. However, my inability to do anything is starting to weigh on me and make me cranky and depressed. I just watch a lot of shows on my computer because concentrating on anything is nearly impossible. I brought probably about 15kg of books that I'm not reading because I can't put any thought into anything. I was hoping for a very productive period of recuperation, but instead, I just sit here, mindlessly watching shows, and stagnating.
I might post my complaining-style responses up so people can see the mindset of someone that is going through LL. Maybe it is different for everyone, but I'm guessing the first month is tough for most people, and honestly, I'm getting kind of depressed. There is more than just physical pain going on here. You experience thoughts like "could I live with myself if I were wheelchair bound for the rest of my life?" I know there are some very inspiring wheelchair-bound people in the world, but I personally couldn't live with myself.
Would I still do LL? As of this minute, I would say "no", but ask me in a year and a half when I should hopefully be healed. However, if I were still to do LL, I would still go to Vietnam. Similarly, prior to university, I volunteered for what's considered to be a "tough" job in the military. If you were to ask me in the middle of a grueling training session how I felt about the military at that moment, I would probably express incredible regret, hate, curse my own country, and tell the civilians they weren't worth my misery. But if you ask me now, I'd tell you it was the best thing I ever did. That specific job had a good chance of killing or maiming me, as it did to several of my close friends. Similarly, this surgery has a chance of maiming me and making me worse off than before. This could be a good decision or a bad decision. I still don't know. If it gives me some confidence and makes me happier with myself, then it was worth it. Or, it could ruin me. Though I don't have the option to quit this surgery, I do have the ability to change my outlook on it and even though I'm somewhat depressed right now, I am optimistic about my future self, and I know better than to "make a decision while going uphill". I'll save my determination for whether or not I should have done this for much later with a clear mind, because right now I'm going through some tough times, and I don't trust my own emotions.
Knee stiffness is due to the external fixator you use for femurs.
And no, it is not normal to feel so stiff from so soon. Imo lengthen not more than 3-4 cm on femurs to get off the fixators from them as soon as possible as they'll cause you irreversible problems and continue lengthening on tibias up to 6cm.
And of course try to stretch as much as you can.
You risked a lot with external femur and you can't lengthen as much as you would with internals so stop soon or you really face great dangers.
Tibias won't cause you much problems if you lengthen at a slow rate and not exceed 6-6.5 cm.
But with external femurs things are much harder and riskier.
I'd like to clarify that since starting this journey, I am now only doing tibias LON and no longer doing femurs at all.
Quote from: normythebear on December 15, 2017, 04:07:06 PMI'd like to clarify that since starting this journey, I am now only doing tibias LON and no longer doing femurs at all.
Its ok then. I encountered knee stiffness only after 5 cm lengthening.
What is your distraction rate?
Try to not lengthen more than 0.66mm per day. And some days when you feel too stiff don't lengthen for a day or do only one turn.
With that way you'll let your soft tissues catch up easier with your bones. But of course take care of your callus formation because if it fast then you should be careful to avoin premature consolidation.
So lengthen as slow as your consolidation rate lets you without risking pre-consolidation and stretch as much as you can at the same time.
I believe that you can reach up to 6cm without much problems.
Quote from: normythebear on December 15, 2017, 10:22:39 AMHey, everyone. Sorry for not responding for a while. I'm on day 17. Been lengthening for about 5 days now at 1mm per day. There is still quite a bit of pain. Not the sharp stabbing pain like in the days after the surgery, but lots of aches and discomforts. I go in for another x-ray tomorrow. I haven't been responding because the pain makes it difficult to concentrate or even care about anything. However, the scars seem to be healing nicely. My knees are very stiff to bend, and when I do they ache like crazy. I don't know if the pain means I should stop bending them, or if I should bend them more often. I'm guessing this is normal, since the nail and pins seem to be placed properly based off my research, and those are the only things I can think of that would mechanically affect mobility.
I actually had another response typed up in Microsoft Word where I complained about pain, and expressed self-pity about my life and decisions. I've moved from the hospital to "The Institute", where there is longer-term care. The doctor that performed the surgery has visited me here. I'm still mostly pleased with the quality of service here. However, my inability to do anything is starting to weigh on me and make me cranky and depressed. I just watch a lot of shows on my computer because concentrating on anything is nearly impossible. I brought probably about 15kg of books that I'm not reading because I can't put any thought into anything. I was hoping for a very productive period of recuperation, but instead, I just sit here, mindlessly watching shows, and stagnating.
I might post my complaining-style responses up so people can see the mindset of someone that is going through LL. Maybe it is different for everyone, but I'm guessing the first month is tough for most people, and honestly, I'm getting kind of depressed. There is more than just physical pain going on here. You experience thoughts like "could I live with myself if I were wheelchair bound for the rest of my life?" I know there are some very inspiring wheelchair-bound people in the world, but I personally couldn't live with myself.
Would I still do LL? As of this minute, I would say "no", but ask me in a year and a half when I should hopefully be healed. However, if I were still to do LL, I would still go to Vietnam. Similarly, prior to university, I volunteered for what's considered to be a "tough" job in the military. If you were to ask me in the middle of a grueling training session how I felt about the military at that moment, I would probably express incredible regret, hate, curse my own country, and tell the civilians they weren't worth my misery. But if you ask me now, I'd tell you it was the best thing I ever did. That specific job had a good chance of killing or maiming me, as it did to several of my close friends. Similarly, this surgery has a chance of maiming me and making me worse off than before. This could be a good decision or a bad decision. I still don't know. If it gives me some confidence and makes me happier with myself, then it was worth it. Or, it could ruin me. Though I don't have the option to quit this surgery, I do have the ability to change my outlook on it and even though I'm somewhat depressed right now, I am optimistic about my future self, and I know better than to "make a decision while going uphill". I'll save my determination for whether or not I should have done this for much later with a clear mind, because right now I'm going through some tough times, and I don't trust my own emotions.
I'm glad you gave up on femurs.
What's your lengthening goal, at the moment?
Just remember you still have a life to go back to, and no one can tell the difference between whether you got 1cm more or not. Don't risk your real life and recovery for extra cms.
If you did 5cm, for example, and got to 179cm, you could still easily claim you're 6 feet and most women wouldn't be able to tell the difference, if that is a worry of yours. I live in a country with many men under 170cm and they all round up their height to 170cm when asked about it. I'm sure the same happens in the US and anyone around 178~180cm claims they're 6 feet.
Quote from: myloginacct on December 16, 2017, 12:20:37 PMI'm glad you gave up on femurs.
What's your lengthening goal, at the moment?
Just remember you still have a life to go back to, and no one can tell the difference between whether you got 1cm more or not. Don't risk your real life and recovery for extra cms.
If you did 5cm, for example, and got to 179cm, you could still easily claim you're 6 feet and most women wouldn't be able to tell the difference, if that is a worry of yours. I live in a country with many men under 170cm and they all round up their height to 170cm when asked about it. I'm sure the same happens in the US and anyone around 178~180cm claims they're 6 feet.
Between 1.79 and 1.83 there is a good difference.
If you don't wear insoles or elevator shoes then noone will see an 1.79 man as a 6 footer, the same way they won't see an 1.75 man as an 1.79 one etc.
You can add 1-2 cm without been noticed but not more, except you talk to a very shorter or taller person than you.
body builder can you give me some advice on 166 man going for 6 cm (strictly). I tried lifting up my heels up 6cm and dont see much difference in the mirror or in a crowd. by the way im from an asain country so if i get 172 that is a very good height(numbers wise)
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