microman monorail tibias dr. mitkovic

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Quote from: crimsontide on February 17, 2016, 08:51:09 PMall we have are diaries... and a large number don't turn out great...

Not sure if they don't turn out great, but many of them are left undocumented which is a pity. So then, what is the purpose of the forum if we cannot get a proper feedback from someone who did the surgery? I would really love to see all the diaries continued so that we can know all the aspects of the procedure and maybe advise the guys. Some advice given on this forum are to be taken into account event though they are not from qualified doctors.

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The bagirov patient just came back 2 years later and said he is fine. I believe that's to be the case with most external tibias (After doing alot of research and seeing all the videos of rozbruch and paley and the other russian doctors and also alex's story of doc.Mon youtube) it is pretty obvious that external tibias with the right doc can get you very good results (unlike the internal femurs which I have yet to see a single good case... Probably because the internal method is pretty new).

 My only conclusion is that if you go and lengthen, do external tibias first with a good doc.

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Quote from: Keep Growing on February 18, 2016, 07:39:40 AMNot sure if they don't turn out great, but many of them are left undocumented which is a pity. So then, what is the purpose of the forum if we cannot get a proper feedback from someone who did the surgery? I would really love to see all the diaries continued so that we can know all the aspects of the procedure and maybe advise the guys. Some advice given on this forum are to be taken into account event though they are not from qualified doctors.

Did you mean to compare internal tibias to external tibias, or external tibias to internal femurs?

Because you can do fine with internal femurs with the right doctor. I just think that internal femurs is harder on your soft tissues because you're stretching larger muscles and also because it involves your hip flexors (which many of us take for granted - I never will again).

I think lengthening tibias is easier on soft tissue, but it sucks that they just take so much longer to consolidate. I know one thing I greatly underestimated was how long it takes the soft tissues to recovery their flexibility. That's what has made my recover (and the stupid left screw issue) not be as great as it could be. I actually feel fine otherwise and my legs feel strong as never.

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tbike... thats your conclusion based on 1 guy with no videos???

I had another patient of Bagirov pm me 2 weeks who still cant walk after 7 or 8 months... he's a member on this forum too


Almost everyone I talk to has tendon issues of some kind... whether it's internal femur or external tibia


 keep growing...I can give you advice.... Do not get this procedure... if you do 3 cm, maybe you'll be great, but is it really worth breaking your legs and losing a year of your life for 3 cm???  might as well as wear insoles and shoes with a nice heel

risk vs reward  isn't good for this procedure

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yellow... if  tibial lengthening is easier on soft tissue... femurs must be a nightmare.... look at me, look at sweden

I hope I can jump again

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Quote from: crimsontide on February 18, 2016, 04:36:38 PMtbike... thats your conclusion based on 1 guy with no videos???

I had another patient of Bagirov pm me 2 weeks who still cant walk after 7 or 8 months... he's a member on this forum too


Almost everyone I talk to has tendon issues of some kind... whether it's internal femur or external tibia


 keep growing...I can give you advice.... Do not get this procedure... if you do 3 cm, maybe you'll be great, but is it really worth breaking your legs and losing a year of your life for 3 cm???  might as well as wear insoles and shoes with a nice heel

risk vs reward  isn't good for this procedure

This patient did the procedure 7-8 months ago? If so, he needs to wait till frame removal. How much did he lengthen? Also recovery takes 1 year+
  Also, the bagirov's patient that said he is fine did post a video a while back but deleated it.

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it's still 1 patient
I go by the numbers... it's not impossible to have a good outcome

maybe in the next year I'll improve enough to be considered good by some members, but I still wouldn't recommend this surgery

This surgery has  a serious complication rate  that is far above almost any other surgical procedure I can think of... and this is an elective surgery for healthy patients

if the serious complication rate was only 30%, that would still be an absurdly high rate for a cosmetic procedure.....

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Quote from: crimsontide on February 18, 2016, 04:53:13 PMit's still 1 patient
I go by the numbers... it's not impossible to have a good outcome

maybe in the next year I'll improve enough to be considered good by some members, but I still wouldn't recommend this surgery

This surgery has  a serious complication rate  that is far above almost any other surgical procedure I can think of... and this is an elective surgery for healthy patients

if the serious complication rate was only 30%, that would still be an absurdly high rate for a cosmetic procedure.....

What do you consider as "serious" complication? Because for example the nerve damage is indeed serious but with a good surgeon is supposed to be extremely low.

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I think people need to make trade offs. U cannot expect to be 100% as athletic as before the surgery. Hell, if u just break ur legs once without lengthening u will not be at 100%. Many great football players decline after routine breakage.

To me, if I am able to walk normally and jog, that is 100% acceptable. I am not the type of person who does ball sports. I go to the gym , but mainly focus on my upper body. You need to be realistic. My grandfather says - you cannot have both - the dck in the pussy and the soul in heaven You need to choose . Its a trade-off like soooo many things in life.

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Quote from: crimsontide on February 18, 2016, 04:38:09 PMyellow... if  tibial lengthening is easier on soft tissue... femurs must be a nightmare.... look at me, look at sweden

I hope I can jump again

Well it's just a hunch I have, given that femur lengthening not only tightens your quads, but also your hip flexors. Tibias, in a way, are more "local" surgery in that it's just your lower legs. But I could be totally off the mark, I don't know much about tibs.

If I do them, I'm doing a very small amount.