Quote from: ReadRothbard on January 29, 2015, 10:04:19 PMYou responded to my post about Bodybuilders, not fitness models. Which one are we talking about here?
i responded to your post about Simeón Panda, who you think is a PRO IFBB bodybuilder, and he isnt
Quote from: ReadRothbard on January 29, 2015, 09:53:06 PMOh, no, he definitely takes steroids. Every pro IFBB bodybuilder does without exception.
yeah , but he isnt pro IFBB bodybuilder 
so he wouldnt compete with them.
Quote from: KirP1 on January 29, 2015, 10:09:38 PMi responded to your post about Simeón Panda, who you think is a PRO IFBB bodybuilder, and he isnt
OP said he was a bodybuilder, so I assumed he meant IFBB. But, Simeon Panda still isn't natty at all; his stats rival Arnold, whom was a confirmed steroid user. Read this article: http://nattyornot.com/is-simeon-panda-natural-bodybuilder/
Quote from: ReadRothbard on January 29, 2015, 10:17:42 PMOP said he was a bodybuilder, so I assumed he meant IFBB. But, Simeon Panda still isn't natty at all; his stats rival Arnold, whom was a confirmed steroid user. Read this article: http://nattyornot.com/is-simeon-panda-natural-bodybuilder/
its obvious that he isnt natural . most of the bodybuilders who says that arent.
if he were natty with that muscle mass, when he use steroids he would be the next mr.Olympia
Yeah, pretty much.
I underestimated you. I thought you were just another curl bro lol
soo the most important is to have the wingspan as same of your height right? Besides off course Simeon is a Steroid User but you won't tell because it will destroy your reputation and fame in a flash
Quote from: Thespartan on January 29, 2015, 10:41:39 PMsoo the most important is to have the wingspan as same of your height right? Besides off course Simeon is a Steroid User but you won't tell because it will destroy your reputation and fame in a flash
I would say so. The greater your ape index (wingspan/height) pre-lengthening, the more you cab lengthen and maintain good proportions. A 1:1 ratio looks great, a positive ape index doesn't look bad, but a negative one looks bad
Quote from: NewHeights on January 30, 2015, 12:36:25 AMI would say so. The greater your ape index (wingspan/height) pre-lengthening, the more you cab lengthen and maintain good proportions. A 1:1 ratio looks great, a positive ape index doesn't look bad, but a negative one looks bad
Negative ape indexes don't look that bad(yes possitive looks better but @@@@ it) unless it is very negative. With the right jackets in your closet you can give your arms a different shape but you gotta find the right clothes.
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