Muscularity before LL

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Quote from: Longer on January 16, 2021, 07:58:41 PMYou guys talk about getting strong and muscular legs like getting a CLL done in ~1 year. You don't just get big muscular legs, this is something you have to achieve over several years. I'd like to see someone on this forum going from not being a squatter to around 150kg/335lbs proper (not like a quarter squat) backsquat.

You're being wildly over-dramatic. No one's talking about competing for Mr. Olympia. Literally just squat for a few months and your legs will look big. No   they won't be bodybuilder tier. Doesn't mean they wouldn't be big and strong by regular standards.

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I hold a bit different viewpoint than some other people in this thread.

Let me show an example: Jujimmufu

He is extremely muscular...but also flexible.

It seems most in this thread consider any level of muscular hypertrophy will automatically make someone less flexible. And this would be true...unless you also emphasize stretching while focusing on muscular hypertrophy and neuro-muscular effectiveness (aka strength).

The main thing going for you if you have muscle already is this special phenomenon within the body refered to as mTOR. In simplest terms, mTOR is essentially how our body is able to replicable protein-dense cells aka muscles and soft tissues.

So that means if you develop a strong base of muscularity for many months or ideally years prior to surgery, while always emphasizing flexibility to the same degree of intensity (perhaps even greater intensity and effort given to flexibility, and THEN stop lifting/hypertrophy-focused exercise ~3 months prior to surgery to allow de-training to take affect leading to decreased muscle size from decrease in contractile size (thus easier time stretching them out), you essentially create a hyper-anabolic environment for your body post-surgery.

With the end effect of "muscle memory" allowing you to spring back much quicker post-op.

Speaking with Dr. Robbins (Paley's fellow Dr. he does the surgery with), the absolute best patient outcomes had consistently been long-time athletes who dropped the heavy sports a few months prior to surgery to hyper-focus on flexibility (he mentioned a football player, a crossfit guy, and a skier/outdoorsman I think who had a journal on this forum already).

AKA exactly what my hypothesis is regarding this question.

TL/DR: be fit and flexible. Not just one or the other.

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Quote from: Longer on January 16, 2021, 07:58:41 PMYou guys talk about getting strong and muscular legs like getting a CLL done in ~1 year. You don't just get big muscular legs, this is something you have to achieve over several years. I'd like to see someone on this forum going from not being a squatter to around 150kg/335lbs proper (not like a quarter squat) backsquat.

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Quote from: gottagrowfast on January 18, 2021, 12:24:28 PMYou're being wildly over-dramatic. No one's talking about competing for Mr. Olympia. Literally just squat for a few months and your legs will look big. No   they won't be bodybuilder tier. Doesn't mean they wouldn't be big and strong by regular standards.

Hahahaha. I hope this was intended to be a joke.

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Quote from: Tartar on January 16, 2021, 08:29:04 PMI agree, I'm always reading people who probably have never played any sport talking about bulding muscles as if it is an easy thing to do when you like. That's an hard thing to do and it truly requires a great dedication.

Not true at all, with muscle memory within 4-6 months you can make giant improvements. I used to wrestle in high school and run track. I quit exercising and started vaping/smoking tobacco hookah after high school. I went from ripped at 6% body fat to skinny/scrawny again.

I’m preparing to have tibia in April and these last two months of working out my body has gained a ton of muscle and strength and I only work out 3-4 days a week. I haven’t worked out legs or squatted in years and within 2 months I am already maxed at squatting double my body weight. Although it’s true if you never had any sort of muscle memory it would be difficult

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Quote from: F_99 on January 27, 2021, 07:52:10 PM+1

Hahahaha. I hope this was intended to be a joke.

You must be incredibly low T. I feel sorry for you.

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Okay let's check it! What are your strength numbers? I am genuinely interested in your numbers since you seem to know how to build muscle and strength.

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Quote from: gottagrowfast on February 02, 2021, 12:17:12 PMYou must be incredibly low T.

Nah, I'm realistic. You just don't lift weights for a few months and your legs become big. They will look more toned, ~defined muscles provided you have mid-low BFp, but that's it.

Quote from: gottagrowfast on February 02, 2021, 12:17:12 PMI feel sorry for you.

Do you even lift?