Must-haves after LL

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These are some things I would ideally like to achieve after LL.

Tower over most children and middle schoolers.
Taller than most females.
The same height as most Asian males (I'm Asian).
Within standard distribution of all males.

I've heard others actually want to try to be taller than everyone else, and that would be great. But that's not essential and I'd be more than happy being average height.
What do you need to have in order to be satisfied with your post-LL height?

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The only thing I want is to not think about how being a couple of inches taller would be nice all the time.

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Quote from: BelowTheMean on October 21, 2020, 04:44:59 AMThe only thing I want is to not think about how being a couple of inches taller would be nice all the time.

This.

Not to have to think about height again. This would also be overall goal as well, based on the points you listed. If you were average you wouldn’t think about those points.

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I always wanted to be at least 4-5 cm taller than most of women with heels (high ones like 10-12cm) on.
So that means I should have been about 1.80  without shoes.

That would be the ideal for me to feel completely cinfident with all of them. I don't care about other men especially their heights. I only feel intimidated with more muscular men than me, not taller ones especially since most of them are skinny or generally small framed, especially the new generations.

That said, what you want is much more important than my superficial dream and I really hope you'll achieve your goal and feel free to ask me anything you want to know about LL, although my experience with internal nails is not much, except from what I read from other llers and some talks with some doctors I did.

Keep strong.

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I would like the 6'2 and up population to not find me laughable

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Quote from: Body Builder on October 21, 2020, 05:32:38 PMsince most of them are skinny or generally small framed, especially the new generations.

I don't think so. The newer generations are taller with proportional upper frames. Late teens and early 20s may appear to have smaller back, chest, less broad shoulders because they haven't build enough muscle yet. Plus their shoulders' width probably haven't reached max. Ossification of the clavicles doesn't occur until 25 for many and happens certainly after the long bones'
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ossification#Timetable_for_human_ossification

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That link doesn't go to any actual research paper. Without the paper it is impossible to say if is true. I agree with body builder, younger generations do seem to be in worse shape generally

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Quote from: O_99 on October 21, 2020, 06:11:56 PMI don't think so. The newer generations are taller with proportional upper frames. Late teens and early 20s may appear to have smaller back, chest, less broad shoulders because they haven't build enough muscle yet. Plus their shoulders' width probably haven't reached max. Ossification of the clavicles doesn't occur until 25 for many and happens certainly after the long bones'
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ossification#Timetable_for_human_ossification

They are not.
Most.young guys are genetally very slim, tall and less masculine than previous generations.
A lot of hormones from foods make boys have more estrogens which make them taller but less built. It is really hillarious that nowadays most young men (25 and less) have almost the same arms as girls at their age.
Even if they work out, they have fit bodies but their muscles without roids are a joke. I see them everyday in my gym. On the other hand, the shorter ones (5.11 and less) most of the times are.much more built and manly.

So the men nowadays are taller but less masculine than before, thats for sure.
The same happens with many girls too, without plastics they have less curves than ever.
I believe that the next generations will have almost identical bodies the boys and the girls, with some small differences, nothing compared to the past were the men had broad shoulders and strong arms and women relatively big chest and ass (curves generally).

Thats why I don't care about tall young guys, because most of them look really bad and small even at 6.3.
Built young men with wide shoulders and strong arms at more than 5.11-6 ft are very very rare.

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post physique

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Quote from: O_99 on October 21, 2020, 06:11:56 PMPlus their shoulders' width probably haven't reached max. Ossification of the clavicles doesn't occur until 25 for many and happens certainly after the long bones'

Correction; I should have written ossification of the clavicles doesn't occur until 20 for many, 25 for few and happens certainly after the long bones'


Quote from: HeightGain on October 21, 2020, 07:40:48 PMThat link doesn't go to any actual research paper.

You can use Google then. Here https://www.researchgate.net/publication/280866723_The_lateral_clavicular_epiphysis_fusion_timing_and_age_estimation

Quote from: HeightGain on October 21, 2020, 07:40:48 PMWithout the paper it is impossible to say if is true.

Bodybuilder also said that newer generations have smaller frames, without providing any sources or papers, but you didn't question it.


Quote from: Body Builder on October 21, 2020, 10:22:39 PMThey are not.
Most.young guys are genetally very slim, tall and less masculine than previous generations.
A lot of hormones from foods make boys have more estrogens which make them taller but less built. It is really hillarious that nowadays most young men (25 and less) have almost the same arms as girls at their age.
Even if they work out, they have fit bodies but their muscles without roids are a joke. I see them everyday in my gym. On the other hand, the shorter ones (5.11 and less) most of the times are.much more built and manly.

So the men nowadays are taller but less masculine than before, thats for sure.
The same happens with many girls too, without plastics they have less curves than ever.
I believe that the next generations will have almost identical bodies the boys and the girls, with some small differences, nothing compared to the past were the men had broad shoulders and strong arms and women relatively big chest and ass (curves generally).

Thats why I don't care about tall young guys, because most of them look really bad and small even at 6.3.
Built young men with wide shoulders and strong arms at more than 5.11-6 ft are very very rare.

BroScience lvl 100.