Quote from: Brb6ftTall on June 27, 2017, 01:12:56 AMIn that case your measurements are accurate then.
No where did I say that was the number one reason, I just mentioned that so people would understand why I thought 5'9 was short, because if I hadn't been around athletes I might not have thought it was.
I didn't mention anything about women because I never had any problems with my height and women at 5'9 lol. 5'9 is in my own neutral range after all.
But what do you mean about the "commit myself 100% in order to get pussy" part? I'm honestly really confused. Are you saying that it's your number reason? Because if it is that's fine, though judging by what you've said about your experience with females I wouldn't think it would be. But anyone can have any reason for doing LL, what I'm saying is that if you're not 110% committed to achieving height, for whatever reason you have, then I wouldn't go through with the surgery because I can tell you as someone who's actually doing it that it's extremely difficult and will take a lot of your time and money away from you. And the reason I said that to you was because it seemed like you really didn't think it was that important, so that would give me the impression you're only like 70% committed or lower which isn't a good way to go in my opinion.
Maybe I wrote it bad but I responded to bodybuilder by saying that my number 1 reason to do this is in order to be average height of my family which happens to be the average height of my home country.
He believes that if I don't believe that my height is such a severe drawback in dating then it means I cannot be 100% commited to this surgery.
Quote from: TIBIKE200 on June 27, 2017, 01:25:26 AMMaybe I wrote it bad but I responded to bodybuilder by saying that my number 1 reason to do this is in order to be average height of my family which happens to be the average height of my home country.
He believes that if I don't believe that my height is such a severe drawback in dating then it means I cannot be 100% commited to this surgery.
Oh I see what you're saying now. If that's the reason you want to do it I think that's perfectly fine, as long as you make sure that your reason is truly worth going through the surgery enough to push you through it.
Though body builder was kind of being aggressive, he's really just trying to help you and others to not get yourself into something so difficult that you have major complications and end up having to go through things you didn't sign up for. He wasn't really saying you're not committed if it's not for dating, the subject was just about dating and females at the time and since you didn't see the advantages of height in those areas, it gave him the impression that you don't see the advantage of height at all.
It's because I don't like to be categorized as someone who has a severe handicap. Again, I am well aware that a taller version of me will be more attractive. But still, the current 5'7.5 version of me is nowhere near this tragic reality of impossibility of getting girls.
In regards to dating/hookups/relationships, it is hard for the majority of guys. Women don't like just height or just face or just character.
I read a few years ago a good analysis of how you should look at it.
You start at 100/100 points. afterwards for each defect you lose points. These defects can be practically anything from height to looks to character to even what kind of perfume you use or shoes you wear. Simply being taller means that I will lose less points but it will not change someone from a complete loser with regarding to females to a pussy-slayer (only when the guy is like 5'5 or something in which height is really a major drawback for him) because height in regards to dating is just height.
Heck, even you say that at 5'9 you basically had no problems at all. And I believe you because I see it as well around me. Guys 5'7, 5'8 and 5'9 who are also good looking and fun having no problem at all attracting women.
Women are not pokemon... You can never catch'em all
Yeah, we're basically on the same page here. I agree with your 100 point system, taller being better and shorter being worse (more points lost), and also agree that an ugly, unconfident awkward person at 5'7 will still be the same ugly, unconfident awkward person at 5'10. Though being 5'10 compared to 5'7 might get him noticed a bit more, as soon as women see those bad traits about him his height will no longer matter and he might as well have been short.
However if you're a great guy, like I'm assuming you are from your description, I think an increased height would help you that much more. Like if a female could choose you or a clone of you, exactly the same in every aspect except taller, they'd probably choose the taller one cause why not? But they'd probably still choose a great 5'7 guy over the 5'10 guy mentioned earlier, because the 5'7 guy just has way more points 
5'7-5'10 is a huge difference man you just can't underestimate this difference. Without lifts I don't get approached in bars at all at 5'8 but with lifts a lot of girls approach me at the bar (no joke). This is why I am getting surgery the 2-3 inches really make a difference when you are going from short to average. This fact cannot be understated.
Quote from: MrHandsome on June 27, 2017, 02:38:53 AM5'7-5'10 is a huge difference man you just can't underestimate this difference. Without lifts I don't get approached in bars at all at 5'8 but with lifts a lot of girls approach me at the bar (no joke). This is why I am getting surgery the 2-3 inches really make a difference when you are going from short to average. This fact cannot be understated.
You are full of contradictions.. First you say no girl pisses at your direction and now you say that girls hit on you non stop? Make up your mind
Quote from: Brb6ftTall on June 27, 2017, 02:21:33 AMYeah, we're basically on the same page here. I agree with your 100 point system, taller being better and shorter being worse (more points lost), and also agree that an ugly, unconfident awkward person at 5'7 will still be the same ugly, unconfident awkward person at 5'10. Though being 5'10 compared to 5'7 might get him noticed a bit more, as soon as women see those bad traits about him his height will no longer matter and he might as well have been short.
However if you're a great guy, like I'm assuming you are from your description, I think an increased height would help you that much more. Like if a female could choose you or a clone of you, exactly the same in every aspect except taller, they'd probably choose the taller one cause why not? But they'd probably still choose a great 5'7 guy over the 5'10 guy mentioned earlier, because the 5'7 guy just has way more points
I forgot to say that I also wish to do 6cm max because I will always need to wear boots or atleast shoes who go above the ankle when I go outside of the house because I have severe flat-feet so I must have a corrective insole and putting it on a flat shoe is uncomfortable as hell.
So doing like 6cm max and still walking with a blandstone boot will not put me out of proportions.
Quote from: TIBIKE200 on June 27, 2017, 02:40:53 AMYou are full of contradictions.. First you say no girl pisses at your direction and now you say that girls hit on you non stop? Make up your mind
I never said that they hit on me non stop. At the bar with lifts I do well with women, without them I am invisible. Also I don't do well on tinder for some reason. That's all I am saying there are no contradictions here.
Quote from: MrHandsome on June 27, 2017, 02:44:01 AMI never said that they hit on me non stop. At the bar with lifts I do well with women, without them I am invisible. Also I don't do well on tinder for some reason. That's all I am saying there are no contradictions here.
So just wear the lifts everyday all day long. So why are you so miserable if you do have success with women? did you have sex with the women who hit on you in the bars?
Quote from: TIBIKE200 on June 27, 2017, 02:45:40 AM So just wear the lifts everyday all day long. So why are you so miserable if you do have success with women? did you have sxx with the women who hit on you in the bars?
Yes but they are visibly disappointed when I take off my shoes. I already wear lifts whenever I go out but I can't wear them for sports. You need to be perfect for women these days it's silly.
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