New generations are taller, it's science (and Italians overcome Americans!)

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http://www.lastampa.it/2016/07/27/societa/abbiamo-superato-gli-americani-ma-soltanto-in-altezza-ZFTFUVSSB46dNOYO65WUzI/amphtml/pagina.amp.html

It's Italian but you can use Google translator anyway in simple terms young Italians are 177.8 and young Americans are 177.2 on average (I guess different ethnic groups have different averages with Latinos lowering the average). Researches are FROM Imperial College of London.
So this confirmed my idea of new generations being definitely taller of the standard 175 cm which was said to be the average for Italians.
If you consider that in northern Italy people are taller than southern Italy, I think that those 177.8 cm in northern Italy (where I live) could reach the 180 cm. Also here there are a lot of Chinese and Indian or Middle eastern teens who could have lowered the average of the real Italian teens. This would confirm why girls nowadays treat you as "shorty" if you are less than 180 cm. Because you are shorter than average (and they tend to look for the guys at least slightly Above average so I guess that to be sure that height won't be a problem with any girls you have to be at least 182 cm, 6 feet). 183 cm is the new 180 cm (the standard "good height") and 180 cm is the new 177 cm (the average height), we should deal with this.
So in conclusion, if you are 177 or 176.5 (depending on the measure)  like me, you Are not short, but shorty. Here.

I wish I was 180 cm I would not ask anything more. 182 would be the best. I feel my legs are shorter than how they should be. My chest is broad and muscular with large shoulders and my legs are short and very muscular. This makes them look even shorter. I think I'm a perfect candidate for LL. Could you give me some advice on the type of LL to do and maybe where? Here in Italy would be the best. Otherwise in Europe.

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Quote from: TIBIKE200 on April 21, 2017, 08:05:31 PM1) You are average height in Italy according to this research (Which exluded minorities) so stop trying to convince yourself you are short.

2) Stop to try to bring the other users here down by saying everyone are tall and that the new 180 (whatever that means) is 183.

3) I am a 171cm immigrant in Italy who had no problems with the height obssesed Italian girls.

4) You are probably incredibly ugly orr have an awful body shape (narrow shoulders, small bones or just fat) and that would explain how come that at your age you didn't have any GF

 I have no more patience for incels. Get a psicologist or better surgeries to fix you face

I am sorry for late reply. Anyway I have a nice face and a very fit body. I am not saying I'm generally short but everyone knows that girls tend to look to the guys above average which means being above average in height is much better than being only average.
All the normal girls i dated in these years, even the short ones, said something about my height, maybe in a pretty way (last one yesterday said: don't worry I don't like guys too tall)

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Quote from: crimsontide on May 04, 2017, 02:20:09 AMpeople do not shrink   between 40 and 59. very rare

so the study  shows caucasian americans are getting taller

right now it would be  between 179 and 180. might even be 180.

bodybuilder, The vast majority of people   do not  consider Mr Olympia  aesthetics to be appealing.  Most of these guys are around  171 and 172 cm and weigh around 120 kilos with 2% bodyfat.

The men with the most pleasing physiques are swimmers and water polo players. Both are  quite tall on average

The document says that in the 20/40 years area Caucasian males average in USA (and on my opinion is very similar to the average here in Italy for white Italians but I don't find accurate data like that) is 178.9. Basically 180 cm is the standard for being average. Girls are very picky on height believe me and they notice even the 2 cm less. It's not my idea. I said one i was 179 cm and she insisted I was less. In fact I am 177.5 in the morning.

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Let's go back to the topic please

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Quote from: Bander72 on May 05, 2017, 02:01:30 AMLol 5 7 being 5 11 they must be really blind.

probably he did not even care at all so he did not stop and stared accurately to extimate his height... if the guy was 188 cm, everyone for him was just short and he did not pay attention to the individual differences...