No Regrets you don't have a clue. People from the guesthouse confirmed that Musicmaker was at hospital (complication). Call them if you want. I am entitled to my opinion and divulge true facts so that people can get their own. No crime here.
Jesus Christ...
Quote from: Mr. Sarcastic on October 13, 2016, 11:11:56 PMOh boy, clearly we are dealing with Harvard Law School trained lawyers here. Especially when they use words like "actual precendent" or "charged with defamation" The guy actually said "charged with defamation"....Hahahahaha!!
If I were the mod's i'd be real scared about being sued. These guys really sound like they know what they are talking about. In the same way an eleven year old knows about string theory.
Hey guys, can you hear that? Do you know what that is? It's the sound of no one caring about your bitching and moaning..
This guy below was so right about you 
Quote from: Morissette on October 13, 2016, 03:35:25 PMThere's no point you can't argue with stupidity
Quote from: jbc on October 13, 2016, 10:43:52 PMYSP, you get that there is actual precedent for this type of thing, right? Like, forum operators being served takedown notices, taken to court, etc.
It has happened multiple times. It happened to someone I know who owns a forum everyone would recognize if named. His mods didn't act fast enough and he was out quite a bit of money, legal fees included.
sure anyone can sue for defamation on a forum, but I think it's incredibly difficult to win if taken to court. if you don't believe me, just do a quick google search on defamation and internet forums and you'll find plenty of legal advice supporting this. it must have been a very different situation with your friend and the nature of the content (like illegal stuff being posted) or maybe he didnt hire a decent lawyer. when lluser first appeared, monegal threatened to sue the forum (making himself look pretty bad IMO) and probably realized how expensive it would be and would have no realistic chance of winning.
Quote from: NoRegrets on October 13, 2016, 10:44:50 PMYou're a bit off, he has not stated his opinion but rather implied a bunch of stuff that I just couldn't keep track but I'm sure I can quote some if you really want me to. He's been trying to prove that he is a negligent docotr without the skill needed to his job and that, for me at least, is a strong accusation.
So yes, as you said he can be charged for defamation.
Not really. yeah lluser sometimes implies stuff without support and he definitely spams the forum a lot, but legally I think it would be almost impossible to charge him. First, you'd first have to identify him (it's an anonymous internet forum and even if you traced his IP, you'd have to tie a person to that IP which can also be difficult). Second, for defamation you also have to prove A) publication of fact (which posts on an internet forum don't count in the legal definition of a publication) and B) these facts are false (his favorite topic is musicmaker and her complications, which to my knowledge has mostly been true so far). To do all of these steps needed is practically impossible.
Not here to defend lluser and don't care either way if he gets banned. Just wanted to correct some misconceptions here about free speech and the internet.
Mr Sarcastic is right here. If you make up stories it could be a crime but if those stories are real there is no defamation, and I got my information from real people who told me the truth. Sometimes I misinterpret but I always apologize if I'm wrong. I have 2 examples of confusions:
1) I said there was a Monegal patient whose implant failed and had to be exfixed and had to pay again and finally got a new implant. I understood this patient was the American guy but it was Musicmaker. Musicmaker got everything in this lottery. The American guy had also problems with implants but he didn't have to be exfixed. I got confused and then apologized.
2) I said there was a patient who died in the guesthouse and MM had a complication again. Was it false? No. No defamation then. It's true there was a guy in the guesthouse who died from a femur fracture and that Musicmaker had a new complication. When people said the guy who died was not a Monegal patient I accepted that because I don't know more details than that but I cannot accept new lies about Musicmaker because I know she is having complications and went to hospital because people from the guesthouse confirmed this.
Those are the 2 cases where I got confused. The rest of the information I have posted here is right. No defamation then. You have no case.
Quote from: LLuser1 on October 14, 2016, 12:59:33 AMMr Sarcastic is right here. If you make up stories it could be a crime but if those stories are real there is no defamation, and I got my information from real people who told me the truth. Sometimes I misinterpret but I always apologize if I'm wrong. I have 2 examples of confusions:
1) I said there was a Monegal patient whose implant failed and had to be exfixed and had to pay again and finally got a new implant. I understood this patient was the American guy but it was Musicmaker. Musicmaker got everything in this lottery. The American guy had also problems with implants but he didn't have to be exfixed. I got confused and then apologized.
2) I said there was a patient who died in the guesthouse and MM had a complication again. Was it false? No. No defamation then. It's true there was a guy in the guesthouse who died from a femur fracture and that Musicmaker had a new complication. When people said the guy who died was not a Monegal patient I accepted that because I don't know more details than that but I cannot accept new lies about Musicmaker because I know she is having complications and went to hospital because people from the guesthouse confirmed this.
Those are the 2 cases where I got confused. The rest of the information I have posted here is right. No defamation then. You have no case.
I think that you are unable to understand what's the fuss with you...
Me personally, I dont care if you open million of threads about monegal or MM. You have every right to do so... The problem is simple... Stop posting about Monegal/MM in threads which has nothing to do with these two (especially non monegal diaries or threads like jbc about deciding to go with Paley).. And also stop bumping up threads from 3-4 years ago about betz or monegal....
Dont do those two and everything's fine
Quote from: LLuser1 on October 14, 2016, 12:59:33 AMMr Sarcastic is right here. If you make up stories it could be a crime but if those stories are real there is no defamation, and I got my information from real people who told me the truth. Sometimes I misinterpret but I always apologize if I'm wrong. I have 2 examples of confusions:
1) I said there was a Monegal patient whose implant failed and had to be exfixed and had to pay again and finally got a new implant. I understood this patient was the American guy but it was Musicmaker. Musicmaker got everything in this lottery. The American guy had also problems with implants but he didn't have to be exfixed. I got confused and then apologized.
2) I said there was a patient who died in the guesthouse and MM had a complication again. Was it false? No. No defamation then. It's true there was a guy in the guesthouse who died from a femur fracture and that Musicmaker had a new complication. When people said the guy who died was not a Monegal patient I accepted that because I don't know more details than that but I cannot accept new lies about Musicmaker because I know she is having complications and went to hospital because people from the guesthouse confirmed this.
Those are the 2 cases where I got confused. The rest of the information I have posted here is right. No defamation then. You have no case.
Dood, we all want to read what information people have about the doctors but you have taken it 1 step too far. You just keep spamming the same thing over and over and that's annoying. It's hard to believe in what you say because you clearly want Monegal's career to take a hit rather than provide all the truth.
Quote from: LLuser1 on October 13, 2016, 11:27:12 PMI am entitled to my opinion and divulge true facts so that people can get their own. No crime here.
You're a real life stalker, and you've been doing it for over 2 years now in this forum. Dude you even have a photo of her big pool and her million dollar house.
Quote from: LLCaptain on October 14, 2016, 01:29:21 AMYou're a real life stalker, and you've been doing it for over 2 years now in this forum. Dude you even have a photo of her big pool and her million dollar house.
2 years? He registered december 2015
2015 = year 1, 2016 = year 2. Thats how he measured MM's 2 years, so I am doing the same rounding up.
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