Quote from: Taller on October 22, 2014, 02:57:43 PM123, it's not as simple or trivial as his tibiae to femur ratio looking bad. It's a matter of it being bad, biomechanically, for running, jumping, balance, and even walking. That is no way to live life.
Femur lengthening would restore an anatomically normal ratio and prevent potential knee and back issues from altered biomechanics down the road, plus allow running and jumping once muscle and nerves have recovered.
Sorry if I'm missing something, but can a psychiatrist do that?
To be honest I had no idea about his proportions. If someone gives me his exact lengths of tibia and femur we can talk again about that. But he lengthened 6cm, his proportions can't be that bad, unless he had extremely long tibias, to have some "biomechanically" problems. There are millions of people who have longer tibia then femurs and vice versa, heck my father has longer tibia than femurs and he never had (and never will have) any problems. There is no "anatomically normal ratio", it's around 50:50.
For me that's just an excuse from him to do even more LL, or did some doctor tell him that he needs femur lengthening because he has too long tibias? I think femur-LL would make it even worse, but that's just my advice, do whatever you want with that.
And btw. a psychiatrist would really help you 
No More Mal-Kahn-Tent - External Tibias - Dr Parihar
We're all entitled to our opinions. Right now, I definitely feel that a psychiatrist could help you deal with your aggression against people who want LL at average height. What's wrong with someone wanting LL at an average height anyways? There's a thread where you can discuss this if it makes you angry and you'd like to share your opinion on the matter in a civilized way.
Anyways, femur:tibia ratios of 1:1 do not occur naturally unless it is due to a deformity. Please study your biomechanics. Typical human balance wouldn't work nearly as well as it does with such a ratio and strides would be very short. Please find proof of what you are saying as it would really revolutionize the study of biomechanics.
Polycrates main problem is that he went to an unproven doctor and the doctor messed him up. He will have problems down the line and it is not because of his tibia:femur ratio. Getting that ratio back will not automatically make things better. For someone in his current situation to even think about femur lengthening is a bit ridiculous. His main concern now should be getting back to full health. Time to move on.
Quote from: Taller on October 22, 2014, 04:47:12 PMWe're all entitled to our opinions. Right now, I definitely feel that a psychiatrist could help you deal with your aggression against people who want LL at average height. What's wrong with someone wanting LL at an average height anyways? There's a thread where you can discuss this if it makes you angry and you'd like to share your opinion on the matter in a civilized way.
Anyways, femur:tibia ratios of 1:1 do not occur naturally unless it is due to a deformity. Please study your biomechanics. Typical human balance wouldn't work nearly as well as it does with such a ratio and strides would be very short. Please find proof of what you are saying as it would really revolutionize the study of biomechanics.
I don't really care if you do LL, go for it if you want, in my opinion it's retarded, but I guess my opinion doesn't matter. So why don't you go and ask your nearest orthopedic if he thinks that's a clever idea? Because I can guarantee you that he won't lengthen your legs. Rinse and repeat that for every orthopedic in your area, no one will do LL with you. You know why? Because there is no reason to. So you have to go to doc who sees this as an opportunity to make money. So me and all the orthopedics are stupid and need to see a psychiatrist (after your logic) and you are the sane and much more civilized person? Sorry I didn't know that
So to be on topic again, I wish you the best No More Mal-Kahn-Tent, if you have any questions, I'm here to help you. I got my exfix removed after 8 months (which is btw a fast consolidation rate, if you lengthen 6cm your consolidation can take easily up to 10 months) and can walk perfectly fine now, I have no ballerinas whatsoever, neither do I have some "biomechanical" problems because I lengthened my tibia 6 cm. But I think you are in good hands with your doc.
Cheers.
well I agree. polycrates is already damaged from his first surgery and because of that should really not have a second.
it is the doctors fault.
and if he wanted better anatomical proportions he should have thought about it before he did his first surgery.
either way. to lengthen a massive amount on his femur now would be dangerous, with no advantage.
Mal-Kahn-Tent
would you ever consider doing external femurs with dr parihar?
I am just curious.
I think he already said Dr Parihar is heavily against it and wont do it?
Quote from: ShortyMcShort on October 22, 2014, 09:24:27 AMThanks for the reply Kilo, on a personal note how are things going with you atm? How much have you lengthened and are you having any pain/discomfort atm?
I had a goal of 6 cm and stopped turning at around 6.3 cm so the actual distraction was slightly less than 6, but Dr Parihar wanted me to distract another 1 cm to account for margin of error in measurement and the compression during surgical correction of some of my misalignment. So total distraction showed 6.2 cm. If I get any subsidence loss during frame removal it will be within 3 or 4 mm so either way I'm cool with how much I've done. Dr Parihar said it's still within the safe range and it's not like I'll be automatically messed up going 2 mm above the recommended max.
Quote from: 123 on October 22, 2014, 05:44:48 PMI don't really care if you do LL, go for it if you want, in my opinion it's retarded, but I guess my opinion doesn't matter. So why don't you
So to be on topic again, I wish you the best No More Mal-Kahn-Tent, if you have any questions, I'm here to help you. I got my exfix removed after 8 months (which is btw a fast consolidation rate, if you lengthen 6cm your consolidation can take easily up to 10 months) and can walk perfectly fine now, I have no ballerinas whatsoever, neither do I have some "biomechanical" problems because I lengthened my tibia 6 cm. But I think you are in good hands with your doc.
Cheers.
Thanks, 123. Dr Parihar also told me that at the absolute minimum after lengthening 6 cm I'll have to wear these for an additional 4 months for a total of 8 months. I hope I'll have that good a consolidation rate but I'm expecting 9 or 10. I might choose to wear them that long just to be safe. Good to know you're doing well as that gives me more confidence about what to expect.
Quote from: GROWtalORdieTRYING1 on October 22, 2014, 07:01:49 PMwould you ever consider doing external femurs with dr parihar?
I am just curious.
I feel happy enough to have gotten my tibias done that femur lengthening seems more like a fantasy at this point than something I'd really want to do. So if I did go for femurs I'd probably wait until I'm in a very comfortable financial position to afford internals. I just don't think of femur lengthening bad enough to go through the difficulty of external femurs.
Quote from: ShortyMcShort on October 23, 2014, 12:50:53 PMI think he already said Dr Parihar is heavily against it and wont do it?
He does external femurs. He won't do cross lateral lengthening though.
Good to hear Kilo, so how many more months will you be staying in India for? Didn't you say you were going to consolidate at home?
So if Dr Parihar doesnt do cross lateral that means he'll be doing both femurs together externally in one surgery? Thats going to be very uncomfortable I'm guessing
QuoteHe does external femurs. He won't do cross lateral lengthening though
the more I hear from this doctor the more I like him. he is saying all the things he should. cross lateral is not a good thing. its just a fad. scientifically not very smart approach.
Mal-Kahn-Tent, can you ask pariah what he thinks is the safe external femur length to stick to?
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