Quote from: MirinHeight on June 25, 2019, 04:15:26 PMyou have 13 posts and literally every one of them you are promoting Dr. Sarin after so many butchered cases. lol.
I've been here long enough to know who and what is real and who and what is fake.
You are suspicious about Jolien's diary with Giotikas when she literally has videos of her walking with external fixator and with the nail in post lengthening?
lmfao
Sarin has a lot more cases, than Giotikas, however a lot of complications as well (by complication I mean even delayed healing, or slower, than expected consolidation). I think Sarin wouldn't be a safe decision either, however Giotikas has also few successful cases, maybe zakika is one of his patients, who consolidated really well. I would be curious how he is doing now..The other too doesn't seem to me to heal well (of course besides genetics), plus this fraud looking girl seems to undermine his reputation deeply.
nonunion- and considering undoing the surgery
Quote from: Yannick on June 25, 2019, 04:26:08 PMSarin has a lot more cases, than Giotikas, however a lot of complications as well (by complication I mean even delayed healing, or slower, than expected consolidation). I think Sarin wouldn't be a safe decision either, however Giotikas has also few successful cases, maybe zakika is one of his patients, who consolidated really well. I would be curious how he is doing now..The other too doesn't seem to me to heal well (of course besides genetics), plus this fraud looking girl seems to undermine his reputation deeply.
why fraud?
- I'll rather believe someone who has a video of them walking with fixator and then walking again post lengthening with nail in. She had many pictures too.
Yeah she now wants to get paid for her google doc but that has nothing to do with Giotikas. She probably just wants to make some $ back that she spent on the surgery itself. She had the google doc up for many months and you coulda saved it. I think the videos and pictures are still up tho
I'm not saying Giotikas is comparable to someone like Rozbruch or paley or even mahboubian
but his pts so far have healed up very well and he has very good credentials (MD and pHD in trauma surgery/leg deformity correction)
Dr. Sarin has had many many pt complications. Some have never fully healed. If you look at some of his pt x rays you will realize the bones are not aligned correctly. This is what usually results in delayed consolidation and even non union.
not to mention, some pts have had nerve damage as well from the surgery
You got me wrong, I'm not protecting any of those doctors, and I wouldn't opt for anybody from India except Parihar, but Giotikas is not set in my eyes at all. I only saw 1 patient, who consolidated well, it is zakika, there is another guy from Germany, his consolidation wasn't quite strong as well (even if the guy thought he had pseudomembranous colitis, what nobody looked after while he was still in Greece).
I wrote fraud (you can call somebody like that Sharlatan as well, as others already did), because that person started an advertisement based solely on her own physiotherapy, without being a certified person (3-4 years of medical school, come on..), and we are not talking about healing, only flexibiity, soft tissue excercises. Separate the two things from eachother. This girl started to spread the holy word by having a quite slow consolidation so far (flexibility is another thing). But even her consolidation would have been better, she didn't have the strong evidence based - and supported with a bigger number of cases - how to heal from an extensive surgery like this. It is, why it is called fraud, if she hadn't been asking for her advises money, she only would be an overly confident, dumb girl (enough to look at the advertisement, she put online), who thought she is clever probably by later making money out of her story, by supporting her credibility with her real person. Things changed with the ultimate wrong step to go into finances (no matter why she needed the money).
And I'm still curious about zakika's current stage, because I think he has the highest chance of healing the fastest of his 3 patients.
Quote from: Yannick on June 25, 2019, 04:57:20 PMhere is another guy from Germany, his consolidation wasn't quite strong as well (even if the guy thought he had pseudomembranous colitis, what nobody looked after while he was still in Greece).
I'm 8 months in. On average I'm pretty sure, that's still normal speed. I just had unrealistic expectations beforehand. And that's where I would critize Dr. Giotikas as he let it appear that it usually takes less than that before the surgery. Dr. Pili for example made it clear that frame removal takes 7-11 months. So I'm still in the normal range. After every X-ray I naively thought that it might only take 2-3 months more and psychologically that was a lot better than me thinking that it will take me for example 6 months more... Also a German doctor told me that even a normal bone fracture could take a year.
About the Clostridium Difficile I had... yes, that's a very bad risk in general with antibiotics. I got it from the antibiotics of the intial surgery. I didn't tell Dr. Giotikas about it until the last days of my stay in Athens. So they couldn't do anything because I didn't tell them. I was lucky because the symptoms of that infection can be a lot worse. Mine weren't as bad, so I felt uncomfortable telling anyone about my occasional diarreah. In Germany I was treated with vancomycin and now the results are all negative <- good sign. I'm fine again. I wish I had told Dr. Giotikas about it when I was in Athens. My insurance would have paid a treatment.
What matters is that my bones are growing. That's not something a doctor can just speed up. Ultrasound is not helping according to studies of 2017. What he can do is to watch the callus formation carefully during the lengthening phase and say when to stop or even to shorten again. I just lengthened again for 6mm which slowed down my consolidation.
Everyone will have their own problems. Remember how Jolien couldn't walk without the walker until the very end? Only after the frames were removed she was "magically" able to walk again unaided. Her bones are still not consolidated. Of course that takes time but she has certainly not recovered fully yet. And I know that if she had done fully externaly, she would still use the walker or crutches. Zakika unfortunately couldn't walk much because of pin infections in the ankle area. After frame removal he was soon fine again.
I know that I will also drastically improve once the frames are removed. So please stop with your presumptions of who is a good case and who is not. You can't compare LON cases to fully external cases anyways. Of course someone who does LON will be able to walk and "recover" earlier but LON has its own risks.
I don't mind being judged by random guys on the internet but don't forget to think realistically about this whole surgery.
LL is not a walk in the park. Now after my experience, I don't recommend fully externals. But I don't regret having done it.
Quote from: MirinHeight on June 25, 2019, 04:15:26 PMyou have 13 posts and literally every one of them you are promoting Dr. Sarin after so many butchered cases. lol.
I've been here long enough to know who and what is real and who and what is fake.
You are suspicious about Jolien's diary with Giotikas when she literally has videos of her walking with external fixator and with the nail in post lengthening?
lmfao
I'm not promoting Sarin 
! I'm considering to get surgery with him, so I want to know as much as possible about this doctor. If I had more money, I would go to Paley of course, but I don't have.
This is very strange for me that almost everyone on this forum tells that Sarin is a butcher and it's crazy to go to him, but if I ask about examples, nobody replies to me. I even created a special topic to get more information: http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=34000.msg135491 but I was told only about Crazy+6. Crazy+6 did external femurs with Sarin, but Sarin doesn't offer external femurs now.
Hello everyone,
just updating- no improvement in my callus.
so I'm thinking to do bone grafting .the question for you guys is grafting is for my tibia right? so what will happen to my fibulas? they'll be forever nonunion?
thanks
Hey tallmf are you ok?
Did you see other doctor? Do you have any clue what caused non-union?
Please take some other good doctors consultation before taking any big decision. I’ve read so many dairies for Dr Sarin not even one patient had complete recovery. Almost everyone have some of the other issues like nonunion, late healing, consolidation issue and some of even had gone through the wrong procedure.
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