Quote from: kio1165 on October 09, 2022, 08:57:49 PMThanks!!This information is so useful.The 10.7/12.5mm precice only supports 50lbs so I guess you lose a lot of independence... Maybe Montaza would be better choice if you need more help from a nurse 
Yeah I'm hoping that eventually enough people go to novotel that the nurses go to novotel more often. I think the issue is that right now with only two patients there or something (who are both femur internal patients who are fairly independent at this point) they don't feel that motivated to give them surprise visits
I feel like since novotel is so close to the PT center, I feel like it shouldn't be that hard for the nurses to go to novotel more often, I think the male nurse has a motorbike
Whereas montaza there are just so many patients that they can just sort of easily make the rounds and visit each patient briefly
The tiny desk space, the so-so breakfast food selection, dice roll of whether you're close to the strip club noise, overall noise from the busy roads, the crammed shower space in the nonhandicap rooms, and the 'hot' water being only somewhat warmer than lukewarm (at least in the three montaza rooms I've tried) are all things against Montaza. But I mean the price is great, especially the non handicap room, the food is also cheaper, the staff is also nice and helpful , the nurse visits are nice
When are you thinking of doing LL in Athens? I might be around for a while
Observations/tips two days ish after LL surgery
Quote from: kio1165 on October 09, 2022, 08:57:49 PMThanks!!This information is so useful.The 10.7/12.5mm precice only supports 50lbs so I guess you lose a lot of independence... Maybe Montaza would be better choice if you need more help from a nurse
You know actually it might not be as bad as I thought at first. It seems that precise femur and precise tibia patients still use the walker for short distances (within their room for example). It is just seems that the nurses really do not want internal tibia to use their walker to go outside for very long (such as to the PT center). However, I think actually they are OK with internal femur patients going to the PT center with their walker, I think the girl who is doing internal femurs goes to PT with her walker. So I'm a bit confused--- but I do remember that internal tibia patients I believe only go to the PT center with their wheelchair
But for someone who mainly stays in their room and isn't interested in exploring Athens, it might not be a big deal. And you can still explore outside with the wheelchair always.
Though I find the old, cracked, and uneven pavement all around Athens to be very unfriendly to wheelchairs though, frankly I find the old pavement to be slightly unfriendly to even walker users
I think the hardest part now is just waking up
I can't tell if it is just a false perception, but it feels as if when I wake up my legs feel physically harder to the touch
And they feel very stiff and sore and less responsive
And in the first two or so hours after waking up I think to myself that clicking is going to be hard
But eventually, the thighs become less sore (but still sore) and my clicking technique I feel is really good now (the wounds healing helps I think for the current positions I use) and I've always been able to do the clicks each day. However, I have kept pushing the clicks to be later in the day to buy me more time hoping the legs will become less sore
I've improved my right leg clicking technique enough its not that much harder than left leg clicking. If you're wondering, I find right leg clicking to be rough because the big click is first (if that doesn't make sense, it will once you start clicking, you apply alot more force to your leg for the first click, it feels better if that first click is the small click).
I feel like the main thing the first two hours is to stay busy with misc tasks while you're waiting for the legs to stop feeling like sore bricks (go pee, drink some water, brush teeth, eat breakfast, wash your face, do some light cycling, do some light stretches, stay busy don't just lay in bed) and eventually the legs will become less heavy feeling but they will still feel sore
Every time I eat a meal, I end up with a dilemma-- "if I don't eat the painkiller before the meal and instead I eat it after the meal,... will the painkiller take alot longer to kick in/be frustrating that it is taking too long to kick in?" I don't know the scientific answer but this thought seems to enter my mind and causes me to often take painkillers right before meals
Quote from: kio1165 on October 08, 2022, 05:22:29 AMIf it's a femur precice, you can't walk with a walker even for a short distance, right?
Don't precice patients and g-nail patients usually train together? Or are there so few precice patients that you have trouble observing them?
Thanks!！
I might have misspoken, because I just realized I think the girl who is a precise femur patient does come to PT with her walker I believe. I don't know if her weight plays into this, though, she looks very lightweight
Yet for some reason it may be different for internal tibia patients, who I think only come to PT with their wheelchair
Also the femur precise girl seem to live at Novotel without the nurses coming to see her regularly, so actually precise femur might be alot more independent than I thought
In terms of how the the height feels, I've only lengthened a little ( abit more than 2 cm I think) but since I started out about the height of the female nurse -> the lengthening has the effect of making the female nurse look progressively shorter each day
Quote from: SpeedDialer on October 09, 2022, 09:23:21 PMI think the hardest part now is just waking up
I can't tell if it is just a false perception, but it feels as if when I wake up my legs feel physically harder to the touch
And they feel very stiff and sore and less responsive
And in the first two or so hours after waking up I think to myself that clicking is going to be hard
But eventually, the thighs become less sore (but still sore) and my clicking technique I feel is really good now (the wounds healing helps I think for the current positions I use) and I've always been able to do the clicks each day. However, I have kept pushing the clicks to be later in the day to buy me more time hoping the legs will become less sore
I've improved my right leg clicking technique enough its not that much harder than left leg clicking. If you're wondering, I find right leg clicking to be rough because the big click is first (if that doesn't make sense, it will once you start clicking, you apply alot more force to your leg for the first click, it feels better if that first click is the small click).
I feel like the main thing the first two hours is to stay busy with misc tasks while you're waiting for the legs to stop feeling like sore bricks (go pee, drink some water, brush teeth, eat breakfast, wash your face, do some light cycling, do some light stretches, stay busy don't just lay in bed) and eventually the legs will become less heavy feeling but they will still feel sore
Every time I eat a meal, I end up with a dilemma-- "if I don't eat the painkiller before the meal and instead I eat it after the meal,... will the painkiller take alot longer to kick in/be frustrating that it is taking too long to kick in?" I don't know the scientific answer but this thought seems to enter my mind and causes me to often take painkillers right before meals
Does Athens BJR give you the exercise bike to keep in your hotel room?
Quote from: thankscience on October 10, 2022, 11:09:37 AMDoes Athens BJR give you the exercise bike to keep in your hotel room?
yes but it does not really fit in the small Montaza non-handicap rooms and also I find it a bit sketchy/unstable to try to mount, especially early on in the process
I might actually choose to stay in Athens extra long until early March after hearing someone else consider it (not sure, might leave in earlier) and then sell my small floor pedal machine to a new patient, its awesome, can just use it instantly at the edge of the bed, can lie down on your back and then it also stretches the quads a bit as you use it
I bought it from the German amazon (there's no Greek amazon, but there are some other similar website s I hear) and it only had German instructions but luckily it had pictures so the nurse was able to figure out how to assemble it
I'm starting to think that based on my difficulties w/ quad/hamstring pain during PT, I might just focus on doing the quad stretch that stretches both leg's quads (sit at edge of bed, two legs dangle from bed, put balls of feet on floor, tuck feet in, knees forward) and the two leg hamstring stretch (sit at edge of bed, put both legs on wheelchair, lean forward)
in the hope that I just get more total quad and hamstring stretching by focusing on two leg stretches
I'm starting to think I should do less cycling and more stretching -> because that is what is going to decrease my pain during PT
Idk about other patients but the "after pee" effect of pee coming out right after you think you are finished peeing seems to be really noticeable in this journey, I think have something to soak it up always in anticipation
especially in the hospital
Toying with another idea to get in as much hamstring and quad stretch as possible
from the position of resting the back on the bed's back rest while sitting up:
Put two small pillows under your feet
1. Put heels on those two pillows, push down on both knees to stretch both hamstrings, then end this stretch
2. then stretch both quads by tucking both feet in towards butt (knees will be up towards air)
And then plan is to alternate just over and over between 1 and 2
Not sure if this is a good idea, still experimenting, but I think this is the easiest way to max out how much quad and hamstring stretches I get, wonder if there are better ideas?
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