Quote from: Masteryourlife on December 04, 2021, 05:22:52 PMSo 3 months post surgery not 3 months post distraction right ?
Not right if you’re using non-weight bearing nail. The only time we’re safe is when we’re able to walk without assistance. Because only walking can eliminate the risk of blood clots in our legs.
To add to OP's question. How do you know if you're developing PE? Yes I googled the symptoms but what is the best way to ensure you catch it while it's early? Get tested regularly? What else?
Quote from: two on December 04, 2021, 04:56:18 PMSource that lengthening can cause blood clots. "Damage" is a broad word. "Damage" from trauma is different from "damage" from tension of distraction. We need a source that what you say is true. How you say this common knowledge is beyond me.
Anyway, just so no one is misinformed, the risk of DVT exists for upto 3 months after surgery whether you are distracting or not. So you are in "danger zone" even if you stop lengthening at 3cm.
You are just stupid. By your logic, all fracture patients should be given blood thinners for 3 months but no doctor does that. Also, Paley only gives blood thinners until the end of the lengthening period so if you do 3 cm he'll only prescribe it for 30 days. You can check his website or consult with him to confirm this.
For the benefit of others:
- Paley gives blood thinners for precice patients for 5-6 months which is well after distraction
- Blood thinners are not the only way of preventing blood clots. Mobility also is. For fracture patients, they use weight bearing nails so they start walking very early. Same with knee replacement patients. Precice LL is very different.
- Blood clots can happen to even healthy people who sit a lot. It is just that after a surgery like this, the risks are much higher for the first 3 months. So even with a weight bearing nail if after 3 months you start sitting on a chair all day then you are at a risk of blood clots.
Everybody needs to choose a doctor they trust 100% and do as they say.
Quote from: two on December 05, 2021, 07:27:45 AMFor the benefit of others:
- Paley gives blood thinners for precice patients for 5-6 months which is well after distraction
- Blood thinners are not the only way of preventing blood clots. Mobility also is. For fracture patients, they use weight bearing nails so they start walking very early. Same with knee replacement patients. Precice LL is very different.
- Blood clots can happen to even healthy people who sit a lot. It is just that after a surgery like this, the risks are much higher for the first 3 months. So even with a weight bearing nail if after 3 months you start sitting on a chair all day then you are at a risk of blood clots.
Everybody needs to choose a doctor they trust 100% and do as they say.
It clearly says until the end of the distraction phase on his website. Anyone with iq greater than room temperature can open this link and read it under DVT section.
https://limblengthening.org/complications/
Quote from: overandover on December 05, 2021, 10:34:06 AMIt clearly says until the end of the distraction phase on his website. Anyone with iq greater than room temperature can open this link and read it under DVT section.
https://limblengthening.org/complications/
That could be for stryde but for precice he gives it for 6 months.
http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=68301.msg207280#msg207280
Chill out on the abuses 
(mistake, sorry)
"For the benefit of others:
- Paley gives blood thinners for precice patients for 5-6 months which is well after distraction
- Blood thinners are not the only way of preventing blood clots. Mobility also is. For fracture patients, they use weight bearing nails so they start walking very early. Same with knee replacement patients. Precice LL is very different.
- Blood clots can happen to even healthy people who sit a lot. It is just that after a surgery like this, the risks are much higher for the first 3 months. So even with a weight bearing nail if after 3 months you start sitting on a chair all day then you are at a risk of blood clots.
Everybody needs to choose a doctor they trust 100% and do as they say."
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This is the more accurate response altough it is not complete and Paley isn't God (altough he starts to think so, if it's true that he claims never having or will (!) have cases of infection. So I would add only the followig:
-I take anticoagulants daily and never had any surgery, fracture or LL yet. My condition is just that, my blood is "thick", a general practitioner sees that in routine analysis easily (time of prothrombin, etc).
So Dr. Paley should add: "special care is needed with patients that are already taking anti coagulation medication prior to LL surgery"", "special care and further medication is needed for these patients if undergoing LL" and (ethically, "safety first" Paley's slogan, but something no LL candidate wants to ear: "a candidate to LL may be excluded from the procedure if blood analisys, other cardiovascular condition, or any history of DVT, any embolism, etc , advise so."
-From the above one must conclude that it may be beneficial to take those medicines for more than 6 months not only in these situations but specially if for any reason the patient has low mobility for whatsoever reason. In fact, the only problem is not only a person that stays too much time seated but with little movement in whatsoever position. There's even at least one case of a plane stewardess coming from a transcontinental flight that fall flat dead while waiting for luggage due to some kind of thrombosis. And surely she must have walked some distance inside the plane. But she may have been also a longtime seated, a longtime standing and/or walking in a very limited space. The cloth formed surely while in the plane and reached the brain or cardiac artheries later on. In some countries healthy patients are already advised, since a certain age, to take 100 or 150 mg of aspirin, a natural, light, anti coagulatnt, daily, because of this risk (the benefit of such measure has however been challenged recently).
Interesting zaozari.
Have you consulted with any LL doctors and explained your condition to them?
Thanks to all for the useful infos .
Does anyone knows if after lengthening (a person with no previous medical cases of PE or DVT) and consolidating etc. It will have more chances of random blood clots in his future life ?
I believe that a 5 or 6 cm lengthening would not make a difference in the body to that point but if someone else has a more scientific answear ,It would be appreciated .
Ps:
The unfortunate guy in Greece brought up so many concerns and we should never forget what happened to him as it could have been anyone (not diving into neglingences or personal opinions ) .
We should all and always keep this approach from now on to this surgery on any aspect of it ,in order to make the right decisions and eventually save ourself from a negligence from a medical team .
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