Since my daughter is only 12 years old and it is hard for her to keep any secret, she shared with her friends the info about possible future surgery. So many people including some of my relatives became very opinionated and judgmental. We talking about same kind of people who would support someone's transitioning into different gender ( i am not judging anybody ), liposuction, breast augmentation, braces for their kids with already perfect smiles, etc...Then why such cruelty toward someone who is already feeling very low. How hard is it to understand that no parent wants their kid to be called midget ..no parent wants to see their child struggling when limb lengthening surgery exists...Yesterday one of the parents asked me if we still want to go ahead with the "barbaric" surgery. Maybe it was just ignorance on her part, maybe it was an intentional insult. I don't know...either way, I am more and more agree with people who want to keep it a secret.
Do you want to do it for yourself or your daughter?
In both instances I would recommend keeping it secret ESPECIALLY from bystanders. And if you know your relatives are narrow minded don‘t tell them either. Only tell a few people you can trust.
If the LL is for your daughter though, it is gonna be more difficult but you should really make her clear the negative consequences of telling everyone about this, especially at that age (where you can‘t stand above some idiot‘s opinions lol)
Quote from: berezoni on April 24, 2021, 03:51:05 AM Since my daughter is only 12 years old and it is hard for her to keep any secret, she shared with her friends the info about possible future surgery. So many people including some of my relatives became very opinionated and judgmental. We talking about same kind of people who would support someone's transitioning into different gender ( i am not judging anybody ), liposuction, breast augmentation, braces for their kids with already perfect smiles, etc...Then why such cruelty toward someone who is already feeling very low. How hard is it to understand that no parent wants their kid to be called midget ..no parent wants to see their child struggling when limb lengthening surgery exists...Yesterday one of the parents asked me if we still want to go ahead with the "barbaric" surgery. Maybe it was just ignorance on her part, maybe it was an intentional insult. I don't know...either way, I am more and more agree with people who want to keep it a secret.
You seem like a confused person. I don't even know if you're talking about your daughter or yourself.
But there is no way your daughter wants to do LL at 12. I guess it's about keeping secret from your daughter
My personal opinion
you are that age already, you have 100 ways to lie to your daughter. I doubt that she will care enough about your few cm. She probably won't notice it.
Sorry,I was too upset when I wrote my post. I am happy with my height. I am talking about my daughter . She is 4'7. Her growth plates are closed. If we will go ahead with the surgery, it will be about 2 years from now. It is hard for her to keep secrets from her friends. Her friends actually very supportive, but their parents are very judgmental.
Quote from: berezoni on April 24, 2021, 03:51:05 AM Since my daughter is only 12 years old and it is hard for her to keep any secret, she shared with her friends the info about possible future surgery. So many people including some of my relatives became very opinionated and judgmental. We talking about same kind of people who would support someone's transitioning into different gender ( i am not judging anybody ), liposuction, breast augmentation, braces for their kids with already perfect smiles, etc...Then why such cruelty toward someone who is already feeling very low. How hard is it to understand that no parent wants their kid to be called midget ..no parent wants to see their child struggling when limb lengthening surgery exists...Yesterday one of the parents asked me if we still want to go ahead with the "barbaric" surgery. Maybe it was just ignorance on her part, maybe it was an intentional insult. I don't know...either way, I am more and more agree with people who want to keep it a secret.
Don't let morons make you feel bad about wanting to do LL to your daughter.
An 4.7 person will always live miserably because thats our sociery. 2 LLs can make your kid become normal and live a normal life too.so go for it and don't hear any stupid parent, who would still have done the same for his kid, saying otherwise.
Personally I kept LL a secret except from my parents, my deceased grandparents and the gf I had back then and noone else will even know about it, not even my future wife.
LL is something very personal that society can't easily accept and after all, who cares about what others think? What matters is how you look and feel, we don't need noone to understand why we did it, only other LLers and some short peoole would understand, noone else. So there is no reason to know anything about something so personal and important for us.
Just don't force neurosis on your daughter (as if she's not very insecure about height yet, don't keep reminding her or hinting at height). But I do think it will benefit her in the long run. Paley does LL with small kids all the time at early early ages (surgery starting at like age 8, then 12, then 16, so like 3 LL surgeries by the time they turn 16), and the kids are always hesitant on the first one, it's something the parent forces them to do. But after the first one, the kids actually want to go through the process for more height to reach normalcy, and willingly want to go through LL, it's an interesting phenomenon to say the least. They're just experiencing something that if they were healthy, they would experience normally- height gain
Kids are champs. They'd overcome anything. I know I didn't answer your question but this is some perspective of mine on kids doing LL.
Quote from: berezoni on April 27, 2021, 10:38:57 PMSorry,I was too upset when I wrote my post. I am happy with my height. I am talking about my daughter . She is 4'7. Her growth plates are closed. If we will go ahead with the surgery, it will be about 2 years from now. It is hard for her to keep secrets from her friends. Her friends actually very supportive, but their parents are very judgmental.
Opinion from 16yrs old:
It's your daughter's choice, if she wanted too then why not?
who fuc*king cares about a friend's parents' opinion. It's not like those parents will have any effect on your daughter's life.
There is ALOT of friend parent that doesn't like me because of my behavior, well not just '' don't like''. They hate me. But who cares?
The main question:
1. Do your daughter wants to do it? - It's her choice, not you, if yes then go to number 2
2. Do your daughter fully understand the risk of complications? I don't know if 12 years old are old enough to 100% UNDERSTAND that you can even die or go crippled with this surgery, make sure to tell her that. make sure she understands it.
It's entirely if your daughter fully understands as 12 years old that she wants to go such as dangerous surgery for a couple of inches.
If she answer no and you still force her to do it, you're responsible for your own action.
Limb lengthening is still conversational even for noncosmetic reasons.
Good luck
I think 12 y/o is too young to make such a decision. You should decide for her honestly. In my opinion it is obvious that she doesn‘t want or need it now (as for a 12 year old 4‘7 isn‘t too abnormal I think?) but when she gets older she will have a lot of troubles. So saving her from bad depression and height neurosis that will develop in her teenage years is reasonable.
Quote from: RealLostSoul on April 28, 2021, 09:24:06 AMI think 12 y/o is too young to make such a decision. You should decide for her honestly. In my opinion it is obvious that she doesn‘t want or need it now (as for a 12 year old 4‘7 isn‘t too abnormal I think?) but when she gets older she will have a lot of troubles. So saving her from bad depression and height neurosis that will develop in her teenage years is reasonable.
She plans to do it at 14-15. I think 14-15 is a great age to make a discussion if she wanna actually do it. Also to make sure the plate is 100% closed.
Maybe she will lose 1 year during her teenage years if she decided to do it later. time is very VALUABLE at age 17-20
@berezoni, I just checked. 4'7 is 139cm.... is there something wrong with your daughter or this is genetic? At this height don't think you have a choice but to let your daughter do LL.
fk the world from 2021 
. I hope people in 3000 realize they are fking lucky to not have to go through this barbaric surgery to grow taller.
Quote from: Atlas on April 28, 2021, 10:16:06 AMShe plans to do it at 14-15. I think 14-15 is a great age to make a discussion if she wanna actually do it. Also to make sure the plate is 100% closed.
Maybe she will lose 1 year during her teenage years if she decided to do it later. time is very VALUABLE at age 17-20
@berezoni, I just checked. 4'7 is 139cm.... is there something wrong with your daughter or this is genetic? At this height don't think you have a choice but to let your daughter do LL.
fk the world from 2021 . I hope people in 3000 realize they are fking lucky to not have to go through this barbaric surgery to grow taller.
She was supposed to be between 5 and 5'2. She had precocious puberty that went unnoticed. I am saving every penny for her to have 2 surgeries if she wants to do it in the future. We actually had the surgery scheduled in February, but it was canceled because the surgeon only wanted to use Stryde on her. I read a lot about the psychological effects of limb lenghthening surgery on kids. All of it is positive. Kids are resilient and recover quicker.
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