Puberty and male adult voice

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XD I personally have the belief that 5'8 is the *perfect* male height (society just has the retarded ideals). It's no coincidence, for example, that Johnny Depp is exactly the same height as me. The looks come as a package with the height. :-)

And yeah, you're right. In real life most of the tallest guys I know look pretty feminine. I know some pretty masculine looking 6'0-6'1 guys though. And sometimes you do see the odd 6'3 beast, but it's more unusual than waifish looking (typically young) very tall guys.

There is other stuff influencing height I am sure of it but I don't know. Yeah, CaptainAmerica was right, it's actually basically estrogen that fuses your growth plates, but that's because of testosterone levels.

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We don't really know how much height is influenced by environment yet. Some say as low as 10% some say as high as 40%, but even the 40% would probably only mean an inch or so. I wouldn't say 3 inches though. I mean unless your body has to shut down because it's in survival mode, it will continue to grow until your growth plates fuse, just at a slower rate if you are taking drugs or not sleeping enough for example. That's why it's so hard to stunt your growth.

I'm sure it could be possible, by doing everything right (or wrong), to gain or lose an inch. I could perhaps see 2 inches of difference there. But I think that's kind of unlikely. Overall I'm pretty sure almost all of us here have reached around our full potential heights unless we had hormone problems or were malnourished or something.

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Quote from: Jack1066 on February 06, 2017, 12:26:53 AMWe don't really know how much height is influenced by environment yet. Some say as low as 10% some say as high as 40%, but even the 40% would probably only mean an inch or so. I wouldn't say 3 inches though. I mean unless your body has to shut down because it's in survival mode, it will continue to grow until your growth plates fuse, just at a slower rate if you are taking drugs or not sleeping enough for example. That's why it's so hard to stunt your growth.

I'm sure it could be possible, by doing everything right (or wrong), to gain or lose an inch. I could perhaps see 2 inches of difference there. But I think that's kind of unlikely. Overall I'm pretty sure almost all of us here have reached around our full potential heights unless we had hormone problems or were malnourished or something.

Idk man. I'm personally the shortest male in my entire family (5'4.5). But my parents were also the shortest in there's at (5'6 and 5'2). I did spend a LOT of my adolescence stressing and not sleeping over my parents' divorce though, and my diet was awful.

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I was sleeping tons and eating like a truck but i'm the shortest male in the family.

When comparing to my uncles that are 6'8 and they were living in times when my grandparents had almost nothing... idk.

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Quote from: YourSpaceBoyfriend on February 06, 2017, 12:39:23 AMI was sleeping tons and eating like a truck but i'm the shortest male in the family.

When comparing to my uncles that are 6'8 and they were living in times when my grandparents had almost nothing

Damn. I do know 5'3 and 5'2 dudes who were really athletic and sleeping well as teens. lol I guess I just want to refuse the reality of this being my genetically determined height. The doctor always told me I'd be tall cause I had long legs growing up, dad thought so too. I just feel very awkward and stunted.

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You aren't the only one, i was whole childhood in the 70-80 percentile of height. I had prediction range from 5'9 to even 6'7 but i stopped growing at my 12 birthday and finished 5'5.

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Quote from: YourSpaceBoyfriend on February 06, 2017, 12:44:21 AMYou aren't the only one, i was whole childhood in the 70-80 percentile of height. I had prediction range from 5'9 to even 6'7 but i stopped growing at my 12 birthday and finished 5'5.

Holy crap. Sounds like that good old aromatase enzyme was your downfall. If I was you I'd spend the rest of my life huddled in a lab zapping those bastards.

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Well theoretically my uncles/dad hit their final grow spurts around 20-23yo but i highly doubt that i will grow even an inch.

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Quote from: YourSpaceBoyfriend on February 06, 2017, 12:50:20 AMWell theoretically my uncles/dad hit their final grow spurts around 20-23yo but i highly doubt that i will grow even an inch.

Lol at least take some melatonin. Since running Ibutamoren my moms said I look taller even though I think I've only grown maybe half an inch at most (I now hit my head on this lamp post I used to be able to slide a finger on top of my head between in the morning). Just an inch would be a lot if you eventually plan on doing LL anyway.

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Well you need to have money, health and time for LL and i currently have none of these things.

I don't really need melatonin, my hypothyroidism already makes me sleepy af