Re: Taller
I have not finished yet, though I'm very close. I'll try to post some pics when I'm done. If not, I definitely have my X-Rays as well.
Quote from: Raisin Bran on April 27, 2015, 03:09:15 PM However, I went with Dr. Betz because after my consultation with him and meeting with several patients who were having their removal at the time,
The consultation lasts only several hours from morning to evening. Patients who have their nails removed just stay 1 night in the clinic. So you are suggesting you met several of them during your consultation? That's highly unlikely to say the least.
And why did you attack MasterHY in his diary on the old forum with your very first post?
It is obvious you are part of a new marketing offensive from Betz. He uses the forums as his main marketing tool. He has had an unethical business relationship with the owner of the old forum. So readers shouldn't pay too much attention to the success stories but rather focus on the negative stuff. It is much more difficult to make up the bad stories.
Readers beware: Betz is not trustworthy and extremely unsafe.
Re: Metanoia
Wow, I figured a post like this might be coming. I'd rather not have this thread devolve into some type of flame war or angry back-and-forth. However, I will answer your questions as legitimately as I have to those from previous posters.
Yes, you are correct that most patients typically stay 1-2 nights at the clinic after removal. I met with 2 removal patients the day I was there for my consultation, in addition to around 4 or 5 other lengthening patients at the Komfortklinik. If that still does not seem plausible to you, then I'm not sure what else I could say to convince you otherwise.
In regards to my MasterHY post in the old forum, I just wished to remind people that a person's lengthening experience is typically unique to only themselves. People read about all these issues in that post, and they could actually start to believe that if they work hard, exercise, stretch, and do everything right prior to, during, and after lengthening, they might have all these problems that MasterHY has mentioned. There are 4 patients now at Elke's house, including myself. I have seen many other patients come through the house, staying for various periods of time. I can promise you that of all these patients, no two situations were identical or even similar. I did not attack him personally or criticize his problems, so I question the validity of your points. Being in Germany for some time now however, I am aware of who MasterHY actually is, what his situation was, how his stay at Orscholz was, and the things he's avoided disclosing in his posts, so as to craft a one-sided story. I am above petty criticism though, and it's not relevant to my experience at all. So, that is the last thing I will say about that.
As far as being in a business relationship or part of a marketing offensive, 
LOL. That is wayyy out there bro, honestly. I posted to that forum at the same time as this forum, but I can't make a new thread or post a diary there. Additionally, the activity in that forum is a lot less than this one. So, I'm just continuing with my story in this forum because it's easier to use and members have been more thoughtful and receptive to my posts.
Now, in terms of negative stuff, I have seen a few patients who have had bad conditions, i.e. duck a**, lack of bone growth, wide legs, bad walking, etc. Fortunately, the reasons for their issues are quite simple. THEY DID NOT PUT IN THE WORK OR LISTEN TO DIRECTIONS! If you don't consistently walk with crutches during the entire lengthening period or do too much physical activity with an unstable base, this is detrimental to bone growth. If you do physiotherapy and then do no exercise or stretching on your own, your condition will diminish. If you cheat with your walking, your condition will diminish. If you leave Germany, go back home, and do not continue with the proper physiotherapy, your condition will diminish RAPIDLY. Foolish people take this surgery/recovery lightly, and they put themselves in the condition they ultimately complain about. I have set aside 6-7 months of my life (January to July/August) to stay in Germany, get the best physiotherapy available, and focus on getting my entire condition back to at least 80% of where it was prior to surgery. Some patients are able to do this, while others do not have this luxury and have to go back home/work. For those people, they just have to work harder at improving. Ultimately, we're talking about our legs here. This isn't a breast enhancement or general cosmetic surgery. There would be no negative patient stories if every patient took this seriously everyday of their recovery.
I will answer any further questions you may have, but please do not criticize someone unless you have been affected by them personally. I can say all this because I'm a living, breathing, walking testament to the remarkable skill and ability of Dr. Betz and his surgical practice.
Bran is 80% of previous ability the most anyone can hope for in your opinion?
Also the combined input from you and your friend sounds great, I've already been stretching my hamstrings for a few weeks but I'm not sure what else to do or if I'm doing the right stretches.
Quote from: Raisin Bran on April 28, 2015, 02:24:33 PM
Being in Germany for some time now however, I am aware of who MasterHY actually is, what his situation was, how his stay at Orscholz was, and the things he's avoided disclosing in his posts, so as to craft a one-sided story.
MasterHY never was in Orscholz. You are full of . If you are really a patient, which i doubt, then write about your experience and shut up about other people you don't know.
Only patients with complications get to know the real ugliness of the character of Dr.Betz. He now seems to send all his patients to Elke. This is in order to isolate them. In Orscholz there are other doctors and nurses who might talk about what they have seen what has happened to his patients. But Elke will keep quiet.
So you are enjoying to live in one of her dog kennels? No gym, no swimming pool?
Sorry to venture away from Bran's story, but have you decided to do LL, Uppland?
Bran, what extent of recovery do you typically see of fellow Dr. Betz patients? Do they usually recover most or all of their pre-LL abilities?
Please ignore Metanoia and be assured that users like myself greatly appreciate your contributions to this forum and welcome your presence here.
Quote from: Taller on April 28, 2015, 03:25:09 PMSorry to venture away from Bran's story, but have you decided to do LL, Uppland?
Bran, what extent of recovery do you typically see of fellow Dr. Betz patients? Do they usually recover most or all of their pre-LL abilities?
Please ignore Metanoia and be assured that users like myself greatly appreciate your contributions to this forum and welcome your presence here.
No I'm holding off on the decition until I see a shrink. However I'm leaning towards doing it and so I want to be prepared, I also want to save as much money as possible hence why I'm going with a public/state psychiatrist instead of a private one. I need a doctors permit though so the bureaucracy is moving a bit slow at the moment.
Re: Taller
Appreciate your point about Metanoia, lol, all I have to say is god damn, that user is really something else, dog kennels, wow. I hope people can ignore him or maybe someone can just delete his spam.
Anyway, back to your question, I met a few removal patients during my 2 weeks at the Komfortklinik post-surgery. Two of them were actually my roommates, one at the beginning and one at the end of my stay. The initial guy had a long road to recovery, but he was a semi-professional biker prior to surgery (significant lower body muscle). He had a lot of trouble with clicking in the beginning because of this muscle mass. The latter guy had a shorter recovery period, and he was the complete opposite. Just a normal non-athletic guy, but his starting height was maybe 175 or 176cm. He had stayed 1 or 2 months at Orscholz. They both lengthened about the same, 7-8cm. However, both of them were fully recovered by the time of removal. Two completely different paths to the same positive conclusion. That was encouraging to me.
The biggest detriments to recovery are what I mentioned in the last post: patients not putting in the necessary work or effort for the 6 months after surgery or doing too much strenuous lower body activity too quickly. I think of my approach as that of a professional athlete that has had a major injury. Let's say you play professional soccer or basketball, you need to work your way up to doing your usual things, from walking, running, dribbling, passing, shooting, and then contact drills. What can happen to some players who come back too soon though from injury? They re-aggravate the old injury and need to go out for more time. What can happen to some players who do the minimum during their recovery? They come back out-of-shape and need much time to get to match fitness. It's the same thing for LL, both mistakes lead to a longer and harder recovery.
As an LL patient, I'm just going to be cautious about sports or activities until the removal of my nail. I think that's the best option for avoiding any unnecessary risks.
What kind of permit do you expect to get from your meetings with a psychiatrist Uppland if I may ask? Are you doing this to get the treatment in sweden?
Quote from: Taller on April 28, 2015, 03:25:09 PM
Please ignore Metanoia and be assured that users like myself greatly appreciate your contributions to this forum and welcome your presence here.
So you appreciate him spreading false informations about MasterHY?
You seem to be quite gullible my friend.
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