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Posted on Apr 25, 2018, 5:20 pm
#11

His proportions are still gonna change more until he makes to 21.

Imo, he should forget about these "issues"* completely until that age.

*They're actually non-issues.

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Posted on Apr 25, 2018, 5:21 pm
#12

https://imgur.com/a/XBTZzUN

Here is a pic

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Posted on Apr 25, 2018, 6:20 pm
#13

Quote from: Siesmicec on April 25, 2018, 05:21:51 PMhttps://imgur.com/a/XBTZzUN

Here is a pic

Your torso should still grow more until 21, but yeah, considering you're "black" (i.e., most likely SS West African genetics), your proportions fall even more under the normal distribution of your ethnic group. It's nothing you should worry about.

I've mentioned it multiple times before, but most Sub-Saharan African peoples have longer arms and legs, while having shorter torsos, when compared to whites of the same exact height. This will mean a lower populational SHR and generally bigger wingspans, naturally. The source for all these claims are linked there.

Despite these anthropometric facts, I bet no one here knew about those until learning about them online, even if you saw black people everyday on the streets. This is why I say some people get obsessed with proportions in these forums, when they're not even uniform across nature, and they never batted an eye to the more differently proportionate people in the streets.

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Posted on Apr 25, 2018, 6:37 pm
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Quote from: Siesmicec on April 25, 2018, 05:21:51 PMhttps://imgur.com/a/XBTZzUN

Here is a pic

I'm not too sensitive to proportions so I would not have noticed unless it was pointed out, especially with the long shorts working as camouflage. We don't often walk around with both our arms straight down our sides either.

If you're not bothered by your height, I wouldn't rush to CLL. Clothing, posture, and even hand placement (crossing arms, pockets, etc.) can greatly influence how proportions are perceived.

And like it was mentioned previously, you might not be done growing either. But if you still feel uncomfortable in a few years, having longer arms is not a bad trait for a prospective CLL patient.

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Posted on Apr 25, 2018, 6:53 pm
#15

Quote from: Android on April 25, 2018, 06:37:57 PMI'm not too sensitive to proportions so I would not have noticed unless it was pointed out, especially with the long shorts working as camouflage. We don't often walk around with both our arms straight down our sides either.

If you're not bothered by your height, I wouldn't rush to CLL. Clothing, posture, and even hand placement (crossing arms, pockets, etc.) can greatly influence how proportions are perceived.

And like it was mentioned previously, you might not be done growing either. But if you still feel uncomfortable in a few years, having longer arms is not a bad trait for a prospective CLL patient.

He seems to want CLS, not CLL.

He seems to think his torso/sitting height is too short/low for his proportions. It's completely normal, specially given he is of SSA descent (black).

His wingspan is also specially normal given his genetics, and a bonus if he ever wants lengthening instead of shortening, as you pointed out.

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Posted on Apr 25, 2018, 7:27 pm
#16

Quote from: myloginacct on April 25, 2018, 06:53:42 PMHe seems to want CLS, not CLL.

Ah. Not saying it's a complete waste of time and money, but IMO the risks outweigh the benefits.

Siesmicec, where does your insecurity come from? Have you been picked on or is it something you randomly noticed?

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Posted on Apr 26, 2018, 4:23 am
#17

Quote from: Android on April 25, 2018, 07:27:36 PMAh. Not saying it's a complete waste of time and money, but IMO the risks outweigh the benefits.

Siesmicec, where does your insecurity come from? Have you been picked on or is it something you randomly noticed?

Randomly noticed, no one has ever negatively pointed it out

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Posted on Apr 26, 2018, 4:34 am
#18

Quote from: Siesmicec on April 26, 2018, 04:23:04 AMRandomly noticed, no one has ever negatively pointed it out

Good! Don't worry too much about it then, especially if no one else really notices or cares. We're our worst critic.

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Posted on Apr 26, 2018, 10:23 pm
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I dont think your torso will grow any more , no need to make false hopes. You are looking fully developed and probably hit puberty around 12-13 yo.  But it doesnt  matter ,you fully proportional and 5'9 is decent height.

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Posted on Apr 27, 2018, 2:47 pm
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Quote from: doomsday on April 26, 2018, 10:23:25 PMI dont think your torso will grow any more , no need to make false hopes. You are looking fully developed and probably hit puberty around 12-13 yo.  But it doesnt  matter ,you fully proportional and 5'9 is decent height.

The sitting height studies themselves use 21 as the cutoff age. One user here reported growing one inch from 18 to 21 too, so none of us can tell for sure.

Like you said, though, at the end of the day, it doesn't matter. He's a good height and proportional for his ethnic group.

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