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Quote from: Kenshiro on October 04, 2021, 05:58:01 PMDo you think it's possible to walk without any problem after 5 months 7cm LON femurs ? are the secondary effect on athletic performance that much greater with external than internal or it's negligible and we will be able to squat 140kg after 3-4 years with external ?

Dont do LON or external method in femurs, just tibia external femurs is hell, knee stiffnes, painx1000, not recommend es at all

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Quote from: Kenshiro on October 04, 2021, 05:58:01 PMDo you think it's possible to walk without any problem after 5 months 7cm LON femurs ? are the secondary effect on athletic performance that much greater with external than internal or it's negligible and we will be able to squat 140kg after 3-4 years with external ?

Forget about LON on femurs. That's a BS method. Believe me, that's the freakest way to torture yourself. No respectable doctor does it.  I don't even want to talk about it.
I am not a doctor but in my opinion if you do reasonable amount (let's say no more than 5-6 cm on tibias and no more than 7-8 cm on femurs) and you have no complications, then regaining your physical abilities is only the matter of time.

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Quote from: MorningStar on October 04, 2021, 06:05:31 PMForget about LON on femurs. That's a BS method. Believe me, that's the freakest way to torture yourself. No respectable doctor does it.  I don't even want to talk about it.
I am not a doctor but in my opinion if you do reasonable amount (let's say no more than 5-6 cm on tibias and no more than 7-8 cm on femurs) and you have no complications, then regaining your physical abilities is only the matter of time.

its only bilateral femurs thats actually an  issue.. femurs lon with monorail as a part of cross lengthening is really not so uncomfortable.. apart from the initial 15 days needed to regain the normal knee flexion

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Quote from: yash on October 04, 2021, 06:14:12 PMits only bilateral femurs thats actually an  issue.. femurs lon with monorail as a part of cross lengthening is really not so uncomfortable.. apart from the initial 15 days needed to regain the normal knee flexion

You think so? Then you need to read Activatedxx or Jamesy998 diaries (there was more, I just don't remember). And how they regret their decision.

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Quote from: MorningStar on October 04, 2021, 06:24:42 PMYou think so? Then you need to read Activatedxx or Jamesy998 diaries (there was more, I just don't remember). And how they regret their decision.

i have read their diaries, you need to read my diary and how comfortable  i am right now bro.. with bilateral femurs we just dont have the ability to sleep on the side and the only position we have is to lay flat on the bed which becomes a big issue.. this is not a problem with single femur being done as there is always a healthy femur side.. the remaining comlications that activatedxx are preventable complications. i actually should thank him for writing what could go wrong which helped me  a lot.currently  i am  at 3.5cm on femurs.

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Quote from: yash on October 04, 2021, 06:29:51 PMi have read their diaries, you need to read my diary and how comfortable  i am right now bro.. with bilateral femurs we just dont have the ability to sleep on the side and the only position we have is to lay flat on the bed which becomes a big issue.. this is not a problem with single femur being done as there is always a healthy femur side.. the remaining comlications that activatedxx are preventable complications. i actually should thank him for writing what could go wrong which helped me  a lot.currently  i am  at 3.5cm on femurs.

Sorry, I haven't realised that you are doing cross. Still, it's not an option for Kenshiro. He is looking for fast method. That's one of the slowest.

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Quote from: MorningStar on October 04, 2021, 06:36:09 PMSorry, I haven't realised that you are doing cross. Still, it's not an option for Kenshiro. He is looking for fast method. That's one of the slowest.

you dont need to be sorry. we all are here to learn and share,,
true.. cross is not gonna become any faster.. but probably this is the only option for someone planning to do both tibia and femurs externally.

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Quote from: Kenshiro on October 04, 2021, 04:09:39 AMTy for yours answers mates ! What if I choose fast and cheap (11k) ? is it possible ? when I say  "fast" I mean just enough to go back to school after 3 months and walking

It's not possible.

QuoteDoes LON on femur requires less time than on tibia to regain walking ?

No, since it's more traumatic to the muscles.

Quotehow much time do we have to wear the external fixator ?

However long it takes you to lengthen.  This vaires from person to person.

QuoteI did not understand your last sentence, "around 2 years" we can't do weightlifting or mma anymore after 2 years ??

I started doing weightlifting with my nails in about a year after my frame removal surgery.

QuoteAre the scares inevitable ? I read doctors that tell that the scars aren't very visible and they will disappear with time, is it true ?

Scars are inevitable.  Their visability depends on your skin and what scar treatments you get

Quote from: Kenshiro on October 04, 2021, 04:31:29 PMI did not understand one thing, MorningStar told me that "no method will allow me to walk after three months"

It's possible for some people to walk after three months.  I've seen people jog with Ilizarov frames still on their tibias.  Don't expect to be one of the lucky ones though.  Most likely you'll be like the rest of us, bedridden and barely able to use a walker while you have them on.

Quoteand SirStretchalot "I would save up 55k EUR and do internal nailing on femurs. It's safer (less likely to die from an infection), less painful, fewer scars, and you will be able to walk properly after the first week."

Don't worry too much about infections from externals.  They're mild and superficial.  I didn't get one single infection in five months.  It's the internal infections you have to worry about.  They're more rare but they can be severe and dangerous.

QuoteFinally, will I be able to walk after one week with internal ??

Probably not even with Stryde, which isn't currently on the market.

Quoteif yes, how much the cheapest one in the world cost (with all fees) ? I can try to reach 20k 25k but 50k impossible as student...

50K is probably as cheap as it can get, so forget internals for now.

QuoteNo problem if I have to wait 2 years to squat and fight but can I walk 3 months after surgery, go back to school without external fixators, stay 8 hours standing and without any problem as long as I don't run or lift ?

No.  This is not possible for you.  Probably not even possible for a Paley/Stryde patient who gets the best treatment in the world for ten times what you can afford.

QuoteIs LON/LATN more safier, cheaper and faster on tibia or femur ??

Same cost but tibia is definitely safer.

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Is it possible to do LON/LATN 7cm on tibia and get back to school walking properly after 6 months ?  (I can skip 1 month of school)
This guy talk about 4 months for 5cm tibia, I guess it's possible to walk correctly after 6 months for 7cm ??

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Quote from: Kenshiro on October 04, 2021, 08:27:41 PMIs it possible to do LON/LATN 7cm on tibia and get back to school walking properly after 6 months ?  (I can skip 1 month of school)
This guy talk about 4 months for 5cm tibia, I guess it's possible to walk correctly after 6 months for 7cm ??

Slow walking or fast walking? Sometimes I had to fast walk to catch the bus for school.