I'm a little under 165cm (mid-day height), and I want to do 8cm on my femurs with Paley. I've been researching this procedure heavily for about a week but i'm just so confused. Ive spoken to Victor from cyborg4life and he seems to think I should be able to recover to normal or beyond (my current normal is at the absolute bottom of my athletic ability, I've literally never worked out in my life and I live a very dormant lifestyle partially due to my height insecurities). I see people on here saying you will never be able to run again if you go over 6cm etc. I want to be a musician so being able to run and be decently flexible for performances is really important to me, so its making me doubt going through with this. Even if I don't go into music, not being able to be run would really almost be a deal breaker. If it was a low risk I would do a second surgery to get to a little above 5'9. So theoretically if I did femur and tibias to get 13cm, would I be able to run like a normal person (with exercise etc to get there) 2 years or so after? What about with the 8cm femurs?
I feel like Paley would not offer these options if they were as unsafe as some on here lead you to believe. Whenever I look on actual studies of CCL patients the far majority are satisfied and have no big issues but the people online lead me to believe you will never be normal after going past 6cm.
to add to this, I see Sweden did over 5cm in his tibia (with horrible dr. sarin) and has now had a very good outcome and is still a competitive athlete, so I don't understand how something within the safe limit (8cm femur) could be debilitating as long as its OK with Paley.
I just wish I could have a solid answer because my unsureness about the safety keeps me researching and I want to move on with my life until I have the funds.
Your doing almost exactly what I want to do, in fact my original plan was Debiparshad. So how's it been. Ive also seen people saying you can walk just weeks after with Stride but that sounds too good to be true.
I've read many journals but they just confuse me because it seems many people have wildly different outcomes. I was just reading yours, which actually I have also read before I made my account. Do you feel like before your nail removal, you could run and jump periodically over a two hour period and not be in extreme pain? Im 100% sure with CLL and a good doc you could walk normal after but i'm very confused about the actual athletic abilities you have after because I've either seen people saying as long as you work hard you'll be fine, and I also see people saying you will only barely be able to run.
& another question for anyone reading, would going from 5'5 to 5'8 make that much of a difference, to me it seems like a world of difference. 5'8 to me is basically average (u can't really tell a 5'8 person from a 5'9 person unless you actually measure & with the right shoes you can appear 5'9) but people on here who are 5'8 or very close getting LL makes me think that's still not good enough. I could go to 5'10 with 2 surgeries, and I know for a fact that I would be very happy at that height, but I wouldn't think that's necessary. TBH, when I wear my shoes that make me appear 5'6, it really doesn't seem that bad to be even 5'6 (ESP if u were wearing the shoes which u would be 5'7). When I was out in public I felt short, but normal, I was taller then a couple grown men that looked normal to me so I didn't feel like a freak like I usually do. IMO 5'7 and above seem to be perfectly normal heights, maybe picky bitches wouldn't want you? but do other men really judge you for your height at 5'7? at 5'8 I feel like any shortcoming of your height can be made up for, and socially it isn't doesn't seem strange at all to be 5'8. Are the people on here just being dramatic, or am I really deep in the pits of hell and I don't realize it?
Im so shocked because I expected to be one of the tallest on this forum, I thought it would be more people that's 5'0-5'5 but it seems like we are actually a minority here.
sorry I accidentally replied twice with same message. edited this one to explain what happened. new to this forum
hello brother
aside from cll. How's your life? is being this height really that bad? I'm about to go to college and concerned other men & women will judge me for being so short. However somedays it seems like nobody cares, and before last year height never really bothered me. Regardless of how good of a life you can have at 5'5, I still want CLL. I'm my own biggest hater and I won't be completely happy till I feel normal in my own body.
how do you plan to pay for Paley?
I would never consider telling my family at this point. its so embarrassing plus they would probably be like wtf are you talking about. my dad is like 5'6.5 and but claims 5'8 and my mom is like 5'0, my family is VERY short in general on both sides. i'm going into computer science degree so hopefully after a few years of saving ill be able to afford Paley. Whether its music or whatever I go into, im pretty smart & charismatic when I want to be so I have confidence I will make the money. Ive also been short forever, the only time I can recall being around average height is in the 7th grade, I hit my growth spurt a little early. I remember me and my friend we're the exact same height then and now he's like 6'2 or 5'11 or something. Honestly it's funny, when I think back I don't even think about height, I could never tell you how tall people are who I knew a while ago even relative to me because I never even thought about it. But yeah lets keep in touch. comforting for me to know there's someone just like me going through this & also that you don't feel that ur height is very strange. Are you not going to wait for stryde? I'm only 18 so im poor as so I can't really afford any CLL right now but even if I had the $100k right now, id prod just invest it for now and then wait till stryde comes back and use my gains to fully cover and profit a bit.
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