Safety of Paying for LL in India - Past/Current Patients Pls Read

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Quote from: GrowTow on June 21, 2019, 11:52:21 PMIgnore that sheep ^ The only bad Dr Sarin post i've seen in 2 years is the most recent one about Tallmf. Which isn't even the Drs fault if they bone doesn't grow back. The Dr does your surgery not predict whether your bone will heal or not, no disrespect to Tallmf but the same problem would've happened with any Dr he went to. Dr Sarin even offered him the correct surgery for him to heal, he just refused it and wants to reverse the surgery. It's not like his bone would've grown more if he had gone to Dr Paley, it's nothing to do with the Dr.

But about your question, you obviously just trust them, you'll meet several patients who done the exact same thing so you can obviously trust the Drs..

You must be desperate going for cross lengthening in India.

I mean I’m Indian and still wouldn’t be going there

Each retard to their own retardation though. It is what it is.

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I think we’ve all warned Winter enough. I understand some Sarin patients, old and new, may defend him. But Winter has heard both sides now. We’re all adults here. And certainly not anyone’s parents.

Learning to say my bit once and just leave cause there are lost people here lol.

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Quote from: BeYourBest on June 22, 2019, 08:54:32 AMI think we’ve all warned Winter enough. I understand some Sarin patients, old and new, may defend him. But Winter has heard both sides now. We’re all adults here. And certainly not anyone’s parents.

Learning to say my bit once and just leave cause there are lost people here lol.

Thanks BeYourBest - I agree with you. I appreciate everyone's input.while I didn't intend this to be a post about the quality of Indian surgeons I will address my reasons for choosing India.

Firstly, I am well aware of the risks with this surgery, they exist is you go with Paley, and yes they are higher if you go with a cheaper doctor hence the price. Russia is actually at a totally different price point right now, have spoken extensively so Solomin/Kulesh - when you add it all up you're looking almost double the price of India and I don't think the difference in probability of serious complication justifies that.

Although I have never been to India before, based on my research from the forums (been following old forum  and here since 2014) I don't think the results from Indian docs - mainly Sarin as he is the one you have all called out - justify the negativity. I mean if you're expecting to be running a marathon after 18 months you're gonna be disappointed, but how many patients have lengthened less than 6cm, at a good rate, and had serious complications? Lots have had very good recoveries. Dr Sarins (and Dr. Pradip) credentials/training/experience are strong for the price imo - all the Xrays I see from them look good (I have seen some shocking ones in the last 5 years and theirs look near perfect), I know there's a lot more to the process than that, I'm under no illusions about the risk/timeframe to recover - but I truly believe Indian docs are judged too harshly based on their results.

Anyway, rant over

Winter

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Quote from: wintersleep96 on June 22, 2019, 10:45:45 AMThanks BeYourBest - I agree with you. I appreciate everyone's input.while I didn't intend this to be a post about the quality of Indian surgeons I will address my reasons for choosing India.

Firstly, I am well aware of the risks with this surgery, they exist is you go with Paley, and yes they are higher if you go with a cheaper doctor hence the price. Russia is actually at a totally different price point right now, have spoken extensively so Solomin/Kulesh - when you add it all up you're looking almost double the price of India and I don't think the difference in probability of serious complication justifies that.

Although I have never been to India before, based on my research from the forums (been following old forum  and here since 2014) I don't think the results from Indian docs - mainly Sarin as he is the one you have all called out - justify the negativity. I mean if you're expecting to be running a marathon after 18 months you're gonna be disappointed, but how many patients have lengthened less than 6cm, at a good rate, and had serious complications? Lots have had very good recoveries. Dr Sarins (and Dr. Pradip) credentials/training/experience are strong for the price imo - all the Xrays I see from them look good (I have seen some shocking ones in the last 5 years and theirs look near perfect), I know there's a lot more to the process than that, I'm under no illusions about the risk/timeframe to recover - but I truly believe Indian docs are judged too harshly based on their results.

Anyway, rant over

Winter

That’s fair man.

Anyway, have you met up in person with any of his ex patients?  I think that would be the best way to find out the truth really.

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Quote from: BeYourBest on June 22, 2019, 10:55:32 PM
That’s fair man.

Anyway, have you met up in person with any of his ex patients?  I think that would be the best way to find out the truth really.

I have spoken to some on the phone, not in person. I take your point; it is possible lots of people have bad results and don't make a diary, but I personally think people who have bad experiences are more inclined to make a dairy.

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Quote from: wintersleep96 on June 23, 2019, 03:55:29 PM...  but I personally think people who have bad experiences are more inclined to make a dairy.

On the other hand they may not because they don’t want to p*ss of the doc

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Quote from: BeYourBest on June 23, 2019, 08:20:05 PMOn the other hand they may not because they don’t want to p*ss of the doc

Of course, that is very likely an effect. But picture that the dr did fk you up; you may be inclined not to share this while staying near them/in the guesthouse. But one day (probably after a few months) you will return to your home country and you would be very inclined to share your negative experience then, especially if you felt like you didn't want to piss of your dr previously.

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Quote from: wintersleep96 on June 24, 2019, 02:14:23 PMOf course, that is very likely an effect. But picture that the dr did fk you up; you may be inclined not to share this while staying near them/in the guesthouse. But one day (probably after a few months) you will return to your home country and you would be very inclined to share your negative experience then, especially if you felt like you didn't want to piss of your dr previously.

Yeah, I can agree with that

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Quote from: wintersleep96 on June 20, 2019, 12:52:11 PMWhat is to stop them simply taking my money and not operating on me.

I mean if you don't trust the doc with your money than you shouldn't trust him with your legs

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I have been to India ... a few times .. I will definitely not get any surgery there or pay anyone for a service.. after my experience there ... I have seen mass corruption ... in hospitals... police .. most government departments and most citizens