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Save a big money to undergo a limb lengthening surgery in the US?

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Silencegoa
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Posted on Jan 15, 2024, 9:03 am
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Hello, I am a 22 years old guy from outside the states. I myself am 171/172cm barefoot and wear 2.5 inch shoe lifts to make me appear like a 176-177cm guy everytime I leave my place.

Anyway, I’ve realized that I can't wear shoe lifts forever. I mean every time I take off my shoes, I am facing reality again..Also, as you guys know, young people are getting taller almost everywhere and the average height in North America and most European countries for guy around my age (under 30) last time I checked is literally 177-180cm (hence, I'm not even talking about Holland and some Scandinavian countries where young guys are 182-184cm on average)

With that said though, even I have an ambition and good financial security, I still feel like girls would still ignore me for taller guys barefoot.

Now, I really want to save a big money for undergo two separate bilateral (femur+tibia) lengthening in the US which would bring me to maxed 181-182cm. While 181-182cm is still not that tall by Western standard, it's literally a solid height for a young guy almost everywhere in the West (again, save Holland). Oh, I almost forget to mention that I choose the US due to its good reputation for this kind of surgery (ex. Dr. Paley from Florida and Dr. Rozbruch from New York).

So, my question is, should I save a big money for this surgery? Is it worth it for guys my height? Thanks in advance.
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babygirl
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Posted on Jan 15, 2024, 11:08 am
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People aren't getting taller, they're just lying more or wearing insoles, or using their shoe height.
The average has been stable for 30 years because the quality of life peaked, and humans aren't getting hormones in their food hopefully.

I always hear, the young are getting taller, but unless you're 50yo, you wouldn't notice nothing.

It's like saying 6in is the average penis size, when 6in is the average lying size. Doctors say otherwise.
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Temoc
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Posted on Jan 15, 2024, 1:19 pm
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Height in European countries and among White Americans peaked at 178-180. It will probably stay there excluding massive use of HGH or artificial genetic selection. Conscription data from Sweden shows the average height there is 179, it's 180 in Germany. It has been the same since the late 90s. The Netherlands is possibly taller but it's a small country and there is no large scale data from there.

If you have the money, Paley is probably the gold standard for LL and completely worth it. He will do up to 8cms on the femurs and 5 on the tibias. 8 on the femurs would put you right at the average.
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EndGame
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Posted on Jan 15, 2024, 1:27 pm
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Quote from: babygirl on January 15, 2024, 11:08:48 AMPeople aren't getting taller, they're just lying more or wearing insoles, or using their shoe height.
The average has been stable for 30 years because the quality of life peaked, and humans aren't getting hormones in their food hopefully.

I always hear, the young are getting taller, but unless you're 50yo, you wouldn't notice nothing.

It's like saying 6in is the average penis size, when 6in is the average lying size. Doctors say otherwise.
You are correct. Part of why younger folks often think their generation is much taller is that starting around age 40 people tend to slowly lose height. It's roughly 1cm per decade. Hence, even though senior citizens were the same height in their 20s as current folks in their 20s, they have had compression of disks in spine, hip and knees lose the cartilage between them (that's why people end up getting things like hip replacement surgery in their golden years). So technically young men are 1-2" taller than old men, it's because of the aging process, not because the younger generation is actually taller if it were a fair height at age 20 comparison. The 5'8" dude at the old folks home was 5'10" when young just like the current young men who are 5'10" currently in their 20s.
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Silencegoa
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Posted on Jan 15, 2024, 2:41 pm
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Well, I am worried about body proportions too since I've seen some dudes who did only the femurs and they look a bit weird..
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Posted on Jan 15, 2024, 4:20 pm
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If you do 10-12cm on femurs you will look weird
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Temoc
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Posted on Jan 15, 2024, 8:17 pm
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Quote from: EndGame on January 15, 2024, 01:27:15 PMYou are correct. Part of why younger folks often think their generation is much taller is that starting around age 40 people tend to slowly lose height. It's roughly 1cm per decade. Hence, even though senior citizens were the same height in their 20s as current folks in their 20s, they have had compression of disks in spine, hip and knees lose the cartilage between them (that's why people end up getting things like hip replacement surgery in their golden years). So technically young men are 1-2" taller than old men, it's because of the aging process, not because the younger generation is actually taller if it were a fair height at age 20 comparison. The 5'8" dude at the old folks home was 5'10" when young just like the current young men who are 5'10" currently in their 20s.

There is conscription data from European countries since the 19th century. The average height went from 165cms to 180cms. Mostly due to better nutrition and less childhood diseases.
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babygirl
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Posted on Jan 15, 2024, 8:26 pm
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Quote from: Temoc on January 15, 2024, 08:17:20 PMThere is conscription data from European countries since the 19th century. The average height went from 165cms to 180cms. Mostly due to better nutrition and less childhood diseases.

You're right, but that's selective, not average. Most people in Nordic countries state their height with shoes on or whatever the one writing eyeballs. 177 is probably the average before adding whatever air Jordan these young ones wear.

I know it happens lol, because I'm listed as taller than I am in my passport.
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EndGame
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Posted on Jan 15, 2024, 11:15 pm
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Quote from: Temoc on January 15, 2024, 08:17:20 PMThere is conscription data from European countries since the 19th century. The average height went from 165cms to 180cms. Mostly due to better nutrition and less childhood diseases.
Yes, and in the middle ages people were even shorter lol. You're still completely wrong about heights increasing almost everywhere. Past few decades almost no change in most first world countries. You're one of countless zoomers always making up this same nonsense.
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Silencegoa
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Posted on Jan 16, 2024, 1:28 pm
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Quote from: Acemace86 on January 15, 2024, 04:20:27 PMIf you do 10-12cm on femurs you will look weird

Nope, some dudes did 8 cm maxed on femurs and as I said their proportions look so obvious weird, esp. when they wear swimming short..
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