Quote from: Hamza on June 27, 2019, 08:27:16 AMYes one side, my right leg is shorter and i inserted precice nail 2 in my right femur only.
my right was shorter and after correction my right is still shorter.
before surgery, the xray of Rozbruch showed:
(1 mm in femur, 3 mm in tibia, 5 mm in ankle due to old cavus foot surgery) / a total of 9mm difference. so i asked for 7mm correction because i know the feeling of 7 which is good for me because i have been using 7 mm insole sine more than 10 years.
10 months post surgery and after lengthening the femur by 7 mm exactly using the remote control in the hotel his xray showed (9 mm in femur, 1 mm in tibia, didnt measure the ankle) / a total of 10 mm without the ankle !! he said its 10 mm in total because when standing on 10 mm he can see my pelvis is leveled (u cant ask him a lot he get nervous from questions).
so i came with 9 mm difference in total and i lengthened the femur 7 mm and i left with 10 mm difference !!
Our meeting was for more than 1 hour and he was being evasive.
Sorry I am still confused. I guess when you said those numbers, those are gaps or shorter distance in the right leg, as compared to the left leg. But you said you lengthened the femur 7 mm. In that case, how possible the gap is bigger now after lengthening, in other words, your right leg, especially femur, becomes shorter? Even in the case of malfunction of Precice nail, your leg should be almost the same as before the surgery, right?
In addition, I just don't understand how this happened. Normally patients should be checked regularly to make sure the lengthening is going fine, before consolidation. So you should have checked the progress/lengthening before stopping the lengthening.
If this problem is due to the malfunction of the nail, isn't Dr. R or Precice nail company responsible for this?
I really hope you find the solution.
Wish you the best of luck!
Small LLD correction with Dr. Rozbruch
If your case in genuine... you have right and legal obligation to contact the company who provided the nail .... even if your are a overseas patient...
Quote from: Ghostfish on June 27, 2019, 09:14:49 AMSorry I am still confused. I guess when you said those numbers, those are gaps or shorter distance in the right leg, as compared to the left leg. But you said you lengthened the femur 7 mm. In that case, how possible the gap is bigger now after lengthening, in other words, your right leg, especially femur, becomes shorter? Even in the case of malfunction of Precice nail, your leg should be almost the same as before the surgery, right?
In addition, I just don't understand how this happened. Normally patients should be checked regularly to make sure the lengthening is going fine, before consolidation. So you should have checked the progress/lengthening before stopping the lengthening.
If this problem is due to the malfunction of the nail, isn't Dr. R or Precice nail company responsible for this?
I really hope you find the solution.
Wish you the best of luck!
exactly !! I distracted 7 mm so logically If I lost the 7 mm my situation should be back the same as before distraction. It is for Dr Rozbruch to explain to me his measurements before and after I lost the distraction !!
I measured the distraction gap and it was 7 mm directly after the surgery. after couple of months when he allowed me to walk the rectangle area in the nail that shows u the distraction is 90% smaller and i showed him the xray and he told me come to usa re evaluate u because yes maybe the nail dropped and u lost the distraction.
He talked for 1 hour in our meeting and said there will be always difference between measurements each time u do the xray, i told him 1 or 2 or even 3 mm difference is acceptable but how come before the surgery u picked up 1 mm in femur and now after surgery and after lengthening 7 mm and after the nail dropped u r picking up 9 mm difference, did u shortened me or did something wrong ? logically speaking the difference should be now back to 1 mm !!
I stayed 1 hour talking with him and he kept saying "I repeat we have two solution even insertion of solid or stryde nail for correction".
I said OK but who is responsible of this difference in measurements and who is responsible of nail drop as i can physically feel that i am exactly back to my old situation before surgery and I am putting back 7 mm insole as u can see Dr and I showed him the insole in my shoes !!The insole is from GW heel lift and consisting of vinyl layers each layer is 1 mm thickness exactly.
at least they should provide me with another nail or discount, he said we cant and we r not responsible and we cannot talk to nuvasive.
If they respect themselves they should say ohh u paid 85000$ for such a small lengthening so we r sorry and dont worry we ll correct it as simple as that.
I emailed the hospital HSS 4 days ago and until now they did not answer.
Quote from: PANDA:BEAR.. on June 27, 2019, 09:50:30 AMIf your case in genuine... you have right and legal obligation to contact the company who provided the nail .... even if your are a overseas patient...
I sent an email 3 days ago to nuvasive and untill now no answer.
I will try to call them also.
this email was sent to [email protected] 3 days ago:
"
Dear Sir,
I have done a femur lengthening using PRECICE NAIL 2 in august 2018 in New York city at HSS hospital with Dr Robert Rozbruch to correct an LLD of 9 mm.
After 3 months i was allowed to walk by my Dr and the nail start falling until I lost the whole distraction.
I have the xrays that show the measurements before and after the surgery and it shows that the nail dropped.
What do you do in this case ? would you accept to refund me the nail price ?
"
Quote from: Hamza on June 27, 2019, 12:22:43 PMI sent an email 3 days ago to nuvasive and untill now no answer.
I will try to call them also.
this email was sent to [email protected] 3 days ago:
"
Dear Sir,
I have done a femur lengthening using PRECICE NAIL 2 in august 2018 in New York city at HSS hospital with Dr Robert Rozbruch to correct an LLD of 9 mm.
After 3 months i was allowed to walk by my Dr and the nail start falling until I lost the whole distraction.
I have the xrays that show the measurements before and after the surgery and it shows that the nail dropped.
What do you do in this case ? would you accept to refund me the nail price ?
"
Most Doctors... test the nails before they implants them in? did your doctor test your nail before he did your surgery?
This is not acceptable.... for you to only ask a refund ... for a faulty nail.. Your Doctor is accountable and he should request a nail refund... on his and your behalf!
Hamza .... can you provide some proof of what you are saying ... as it's wrong to judge someone without some proof.. I mean proof of documentation evidence....
Quote from: Hamza on June 27, 2019, 07:51:08 AMI have a 24 hours flight to arrive to Rozbruch and u know how much expensive is NYC and the surgery itself and i was saying It is ok I am not paying for buying a car i am paying for medical issue that is affecting my daily life and i am a very active person and i like to do all kinds of sports. I was astonished when he said u have to pay again and in full amount for the correction surgery !! another 85000$ is easy for them. Really unethical but i cant do anything as i am an international patient as he said.
he was not shy that i came with (1 mm in femur, 3 mm in tibia, 5 mm in ankle)
and after correction he picked up (9mm in femur)
he was not shy that precice nail 2 that he recommended and refused to use stryde at early phases dropped and malfunctioned.
I didn't ask for full refund or even partial !! I asked for correction with a discounted price, i also suggested no discount but bring a new free nail for me even solid nail which is cheaper and i ll pay for the surgery !! but he said he cant. So what can u do in this situation other than saying this is definitely unethical ?
As if they got the money and that was the most important point for them.
If u want i can also upload the xray measurements done by Dr Betz showed that after surgery i have 14 mm difference between leg length where 9 mm is in femur.
I would sue the out of them if I were you even as an international patient
Quote from: PANDA:BEAR.. on June 27, 2019, 03:55:30 PMHamza .... can you provide some proof of what you are saying ... as it's wrong to judge someone without some proof.. I mean proof of documentation evidence....
For sure, the link below shows the xray image took from my phone at DR s office at HSS in the last visit (date 20/6/2019) exactly 10 months post surgery.
It shows 9 mm difference in femur & 2 mm difference in tibia and ankle is not measured but there is also a couple of mm s in ankle due to old cavus foot surgery.
In this xray i was standing on 6 mm wood insole under my right leg and u can see that i still need 4 mm to have a good leveled pelvis.
https://imgur.com/4idXT7T
If u want i can also upload the receipt of paying 1200$ for this xray. shame on them in all ways.
Quote from: Activatedx on June 27, 2019, 05:36:44 PM
I would sue the out of them if I were you even as an international patient
I live in the middle east far away from New York and i don't have anyone there.
Do u think it is easy to start to sue them and come back to New York for follow up ?
Each travel to New York costs at least 3000$ for me if i come just for couple of days. (ticket, hotel, food ...) maybe another xray also this time for more than 1200$ u never know!!
If u can advice me in this issue i ll be thankful.
Quote from: Hamza on June 27, 2019, 07:17:38 PMI live in the middle east far away from New York and i don't have anyone there.
Do u think it is easy to start to sue them and come back to New York for follow up ?
Each travel to New York costs at least 3000$ for me if i come just for couple of days. (ticket, hotel, food ...) maybe another xray also this time for more than 1200$ u never know!!
If u can advice me in this issue i ll be thankful.
Your lawyer would handle everything for you. You don’t have to come back. Better to find one in nyc but if you need I can recommend you to one if you want to pm me. My business was burglarized and my insurance didn’t want to pay so I sued them and my lawyer she’s really good. Got me more than I lost.
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