STRYDE cannot withstand full weight bearing, according to NUVASIVE

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Quote from: BetzLandLiberator on November 19, 2019, 07:58:35 AMWell, Stryde seems to be much MORE weight bearing than Precice, that's for sure.
But - considering NUVASIVE official guides - it seems Stryde is much closer to the current Betzbone than people would like to admit: a nail that can be full weight bearing only if you are very careful.

But that's just a guess. I'm really puzzled by the fact that NUVASIVE position is different from Paley's, specially because he worked with them to develop the nail.
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The Stryde is far more superior than the betzbone ... there is no comparison...

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Quote from: PANDA:BEAR.. on November 19, 2019, 09:31:12 PMThe Stryde is far more superior than the betzbone ... there is no comparison...

I thought so too but now I'm not so sure for two reasons:

1) Stryde's manufacturer, NUVASIVE, says the nail is not really full weight bearing. Their description sounds EXACTLY like Dr. betz description of Betzbone. Meaning, it is weight bearing as long as you are careful.

2) The last diaries of Betz's patients shows that they were walking without crutches during lengthening with the last Betzbone.

But, who knows? The old Betzbone that I had (11cm) was definitely not full weight bearing during lengthening, but it seems the new patients have a totally different experience than what I had in 2012.

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Quote from: PANDA:BEAR.. on November 19, 2019, 09:31:12 PM
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The Stryde is far more superior than the betzbone ... there is no comparison...

Explain in more detail. Thank you.

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10mm Stryde has the weight limit of about 75 kilograms
This means it’s not full weight bearing for whoever weigh more than that
But these thin nails are used mainly for women and very short guys with thin bones
Such big company will never write things in the manner where they might have litigation issues.

Betsnails are such a crap using clicking system which is non reversible.
Also clicking is quite painful when lengthening
MaterHY was told that the nail had some contamination inside the nail
Any clicking nails are just craps

Better  to realize that there have been so many shills of Betz, Sarin, Guichet, Mitokovic, Mirzoyan, Sharm, Sha, Salameh etc.. for years of the forum history

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Quote from: TemakiSushi on November 21, 2019, 02:09:30 PM10mm Stryde has the weight limit of about 75 kilograms
This means it’s not full weight bearing for whoever weigh more than that
But these thin nails are used mainly for women and very short guys with thin bones
Such big company will never write things in the manner where they might have litigation issues.

Betsnails are such a crap using clicking system which is non reversible.
Also clicking is quite painful when lengthening
MaterHY was told that the nail had some contamination inside the nail
Any clicking nails are just craps

Better  to realize that there have been so many shills of Betz, Sarin, Guichet, Mitokovic, Mirzoyan, Sharm, Sha, Salameh etc.. for years of the forum history

What is Donghoon Lee's recommendation on nails and how much weight bearing?

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Quote from: TemakiSushi on November 21, 2019, 02:09:30 PMBetsnails are such a crap using clicking system which is non reversible.
Also clicking is quite painful when lengthening
MaterHY was told that the nail had some contamination inside the nail
Any clicking nails are just craps

About clicking being "quite painful" that's simply not true, at least not for Betzbone.
It wasn't painful for the majority of patients when I did in 2012.
In the new Betzbone moves even less, so it is even less painful now.

I agree that the reversible nature of Stryde is pretty good for non-union cases and the lack of clicking mechanism means the nail is probably more stable.

Quote from: TemakiSushi on November 21, 2019, 02:09:30 PMBetter  to realize that there have been so many shills of Betz,

So anyone that had a good experience with Betz (10cm on the femurs and total recovery of athletic abilities) is a shill now?
So are you a shill for Stryde?
It's impossible to have a serious conversation with this attitude.
I'm considering both Stryde and Betzbone for my tibias.
I think Stryde seems to be the better nail but the NUVASIVE official position about not being weight bearing took away my certainty.
And so far no one could explain why NUVASIVE says something while Paley and the other doctors say something different.

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Quote from: BetzLandLiberator on November 21, 2019, 06:26:06 PMAbout clicking being "quite painful" that's simply not true, at least not for Betzbone.
It wasn't painful for the majority of patients when I did in 2012.
In the new Betzbone moves even less, so it is even less painful now.

I agree that the reversible nature of Stryde is pretty good for non-union cases and the lack of clicking mechanism means the nail is probably more stable.

So anyone that had a good experience with Betz (10cm on the femurs and total recovery of athletic abilities) is a shill now?
So are you a shill for Stryde?
It's impossible to have a serious conversation with this attitude.
I'm considering both Stryde and Betzbone for my tibias.
I think Stryde seems to be the better nail but the NUVASIVE official position about not being weight bearing took away my certainty.
And so far no one could explain why NUVASIVE says something while Paley and the other doctors say something different.

This is one of the reason why I’m leaving this forum. 

If you are comfortable with the Betzbone and has great results from it and that doctor why would you try to convince yourself or other to think otherwise.

Personally I just had my femurs done with success and lengthened the Stryde to the max of 8cm plus walking around in the house without crutches, full weight bearing, with an outstanding doctor.

If Stryde is not fully weight bearing, how am I able to take my first few steps the day after surgery.  I been standing in the tub to shower, brushes my teeth and more. Plus if you watch the videos from Movies dairy, there my friend is solid proof that Stryde is fully weight bearing and there are no videos of other implant nail from a forum user.

I’m not here to promote or trash any doctor or implant nail, but if I’m going to do my tibias also I would not have any second thought of doing it with another doctor or different implant nail unless there is an upgrade on the Stryde nail by Nuvasive.

So no I will not be asking this forum for advise on a new or old implant nail or doctor since I had successfully done it with my doctor and that company nail.

Sorry but it sound like you are just trying to bring up talks about the new Betzbone and Betz like a promoter and not here for real advice since you have an answer to all your replies.

We all know which is the superior and safer implant nail so please just go with your new Betzbone and Betz since you had success on your first go around and stop trashing, Stryde nail by NuVasive.

To all that’s reading this tread and considering CLL, please do your own research on the doctor of choice and nail implant and not be influence by any tread or any “not so silent promoters.”

Oh I already know you will have an answer to my reply😂, so you can continue to keep this tread going.

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Quote from: azman on November 21, 2019, 08:55:26 PM
We all know which is the superior and safer implant nail so please just go with your new Betzbone and Betz since you had success on your first go around and stop trashing, Stryde nail by NuVasive.

Dude, are you crazy? I'm not trashing Stryde.
I said more than once that Stryde is my preference right now and it seems the best nail.
I brought an OFFICIAL GUIDELINE by NUVASIVE saying the nail is not full weight bearing.
Is NUVASIVE trashing their own nail?

I'm just trying to understand this.
If anything, you sound like a promoter of Stryde, not me of Betzbone.