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Posted on Aug 17, 2023, 2:27 am
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According to google, the success rate for this surgery is 4 out of 10.

How accurate is this?
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Posted on Aug 17, 2023, 2:30 am
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Quote from: athenian1984 on August 17, 2023, 02:27:15 AMAccording to google, the success rate for this surgery is 4 out of 10.

How accurate is this?
Overall, limb lengthening surgeries have a high success rate (about 95%). Scarring is usually minimal since only small incisions are required in most procedures. Although minor problems may occur with pins and stiffening in the joints, serious complications from limb lengthening surgery are rare.
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Posted on Aug 17, 2023, 6:36 am
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This surgery is blowing up. Though silently. This forum is proof. More people are talking now than ever.
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Posted on Aug 17, 2023, 8:26 am
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Your question isn't specific enough. It depends on many factors, the 2 most important one being 1) Which doctor 2) What method

If you do External LON in Turkey, you're probably looking at a 25% success rate. Femur with Paley, probably 99%.

Also what is "success" to you? Being able to recover in the optimal average time? Or being able to recover at all. Delayed union is the most common complication. But it really just means your recovery period will be a couple months longer.
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Posted on Aug 17, 2023, 11:55 am
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Quote from: jerrytheman on August 17, 2023, 08:26:26 AMYour question isn't specific enough. It depends on many factors, the 2 most important one being 1) Which doctor 2) What method

If you do External LON in Turkey, you're probably looking at a 25% success rate. Femur with Paley, probably 99%.

Also what is "success" to you? Being able to recover in the optimal average time? Or being able to recover at all. Delayed union is the most common complication. But it really just means your recovery period will be a couple months longer.

Saying the turkish clinics have a 25% is ridiculous. I don't doubt there's a higher percentage of complications there but you're only going to hear about bad results on this forum, if they actually crippled 75% of patients they'd have been shut down long ago.

The fact is, you'll probably be fine in Turkey, but it's higher risk than other places. Not even that much cheaper these days either.
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Posted on Aug 17, 2023, 2:23 pm
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While examining reports of victims of LLT and WBT in Turkey, I believe the major problem with their medical institutions is not the occurrence of complications themselves, but rather the lack of ability to detect them early on.
They probably won't share real statistics, and they keep saying that no doctor can prevent all complications.

If a patient's infection is missed for too long, it can turn into severe osteomyelitis, which would be obvious to anyone.
They would likely be unable to provide advanced treatments like the ones Hasaki received in the U.S., so in the worst case, the patient could face the possibility of losing a leg.

If you want to know the success rate of LL surgery, the following paper may be of reference:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7342054/
However, only a small portion of doctors write papers, and there are those who say that papers cannot always be trusted.
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Posted on Aug 18, 2023, 3:50 am
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Quote from: Legs890 on August 17, 2023, 11:55:24 AMSaying the turkish clinics have a 25% is ridiculous. I don't doubt there's a higher percentage of complications there but you're only going to hear about bad results on this forum, if they actually crippled 75% of patients they'd have been shut down long ago.

The fact is, you'll probably be fine in Turkey, but it's higher risk than other places. Not even that much cheaper these days either.

It's not regulated lol. A lot of victims have been trying to shut them down. If it were any other country in the world, you're right, they'd in fact be shut down a long time ago. 25% is a random number, but not out of the realm of possibility.
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Posted on Aug 20, 2023, 6:27 am
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Quote from: jerrytheman on August 18, 2023, 03:50:08 AMIt's not regulated lol. A lot of victims have been trying to shut them down. If it were any other country in the world, you're right, they'd in fact be shut down a long time ago. 25% is a random number, but not out of the realm of possibility.

Alright calm down. I'll agree on the fact that Turkey isn't comparable to other locations like EU/NA/Korea but thinking the success rate over there is at the realm of 20s and even 30s is ridiculous. Hundreds or even 1000+ of people with the ability to spend 40k+ do it at LLT every year and if the rate is that horrendous ( a number that rivals even some cancer survival rate ) then the place would definitely be investigated even in a less regulated place like Turkey - in fact if the success rate was that low they probably would be the nations biggest treatment centers in Turkey lol
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Posted on Aug 20, 2023, 8:05 am
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Quote from: JJ299 on August 20, 2023, 06:27:19 AMAlright calm down. I'll agree on the fact that Turkey isn't comparable to other locations like EU/NA/Korea but thinking the success rate over there is at the realm of 20s and even 30s is ridiculous. Hundreds or even 1000+ of people with the ability to spend 40k+ do it at LLT every year and if the rate is that horrendous ( a number that rivals even some cancer survival rate ) then the place would definitely be investigated even in a less regulated place like Turkey - in fact if the success rate was that low they probably would be the nations biggest treatment centers in Turkey lol

Well to give a good estimate on success rate. How about you define what "success" is to you. Is a super delayed union a success? Is a non-union where they need to do a bone graft a success? Is ultimately healing but going through multiple pain of infection, and 2 years of rehab a success?

Define it and we can debate what their. "success" rate is.
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Posted on Aug 20, 2023, 4:07 pm
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Quote from: athenian1984 on August 17, 2023, 02:27:15 AMAccording to google, the success rate for this surgery is 4 out of 10.

How accurate is this?

Its high unless you go to a third world butcher.  4 out of 10 sounds completely off.  But if you do have an issue like non-union you really are pretty f-cked and a certain amount of people will have this happen every year.  On some level you're always rolling the dice.
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