I would like to see some new x rays of patient Rocky.
In the last ones I've seen the bone bridge was almost invisible and he lengthened a lot after that.
I really wish he has a solid bridge right now but I see that Jamal's technique or the obsolete bliskunov nail suffer from major non union cases.
Quote from: tlannister on August 14, 2018, 02:41:15 PMUpdate:
former patient just confirmed non-union. Had to replace jamal nail with another one and have bone graft.
Will moderators send out warning about this doctor? as I wrote in rockys diary. We are in 2018, we have come far in tech that non-union should not be considered as "normal" complication. It should warrant a warning sign on the surgeon.
tlanniser, you sad, sad, pathetic little sack, what can I say to you?! This is not why Emanuel came back to post on here. You're so quick to attack the good doctor yet you don't even know what the cause of the problem was. Your face must be getting pretty darned battered the number of times you've fallen flat on it!
"We are in 2018"
Did Emanuel have his surgery this year? The doctor did his best to put everything right at no extra cost, unlike Paley who asks for $30k as a contingency, and it's good to hear Emanuel is on his way to a full recovery. There is no surgery without risk of complication and such a problem is not down to 'tech". All internal telescopic nails work the same way in principle. You really haven't got a clue. Tell me, why are so peeved off? Is it because you're a salesman of Precise and Dr Jamal declined your offer? Well you're in luck, cos the good doctor is now considering offering Precise 2 and Strye whenever available, just to shut little b1tches like you up.
Quote from: Body Builder on August 14, 2018, 03:13:21 PMI would like to see some new x rays of patient Rocky.
In the last ones I've seen the bone bridge was almost invisible and he lengthened a lot after that.
I really wish he has a solid bridge right now but I see that Jamal's technique or the obsolete bliskunov nail suffer from major non union cases.
Bodybuilder, no disrespect, but it's too early to look for anything in Rocky's xrays. Any regen is likely to be very faint so soon after completing lengthening and will not show on Xrays.
No points to you for dissing a nail you know nothing about. I also had this nail and I can probably boast as good a result as any doctor/nail out there.
And the nail is NOT the cause of non-unions. There are many other factors at play. Limb lengthening is 75% about the patient effort and a quarter from the doctor. Note the 4 phases to LL: Preparation, Surgery, Lengthening and Strengthening. The doctor only really helps with phase 2 and to some degree, phase 3, but the patient has to do the rest. As pointed out above, Dr Jamal will soon offer Precise 2 and Stryde whenever available, not that he believes they have anything better to offer.
Quote from: taller_in_Kiev on August 14, 2018, 04:42:38 PMBodybuilder, no disrespect, but it's too early to look for anything in Rocky's xrays. Any regen is likely to be very faint so soon after completing lengthening and will not show on Xrays.
No points to you for dissing a nail you know nothing about. I also had this nail and I can probably boast as good a result as any doctor/nail out there.
And the nail is NOT the cause of non-unions. There are many other factors at play. Limb lengthening is 75% about the patient effort and a quarter from the doctor. Note the 4 phases to LL: Preparation, Surgery, Lengthening and Strengthening. The doctor only really helps with phase 2 and to some degree, phase 3, but the patient has to do the rest. As pointed out above, Dr Jamal will soon offer Precise 2 and Stryde whenever available, not that he believes they have anything better to offer.
LL is 80% up to the doctor and 20% to the patient (and most of that to not lengthen faster than he should or don't go over the limits in lengthening), to have a good result.
Non unions, malunions and almost or major complications (except from soft tissue issues like equinus where has nothing to do with the initial surgery) are caused by doctor's faults.
Albizzia nails like the ones Guichet use cause delayed union and non union frequently because they are too thick and mostly because the way of clicking don't let the bone heal successfully.
I don't know about bliskunov nail but of course it can't be compared with stryde which is the best out there in terms of safety and weight bearing abilities.
Also, doing 11cm in one segment as you is a very bad choice for the future and no respectable doctor would let a patient lengthen that much.
Taken in mind all these things plus the 40k price which is way too expensive for a third world country like Ukraine where average salary is not even 250 euros per month (it is like paying about 500k dollars in USA for Stryde where the average salay is about 2500 dollars), I can't see whuy someone would go to Nemer.
If the price was about 20-25k euros max then maybe the risk would worth having an internal nail, but with that money (40k) you can have precise 2 in Greece so things seem simple to me about what my choice would have been.
Quote from: Body Builder on August 14, 2018, 08:36:33 PMLL is 80% up to the doctor and 20% to the patient (and most of that to not lengthen faster than he should or don't go over the limits in lengthening), to have a good result.
Non unions, malunions and almost or major complications (except from soft tissue issues like equinus where has nothing to do with the initial surgery) are caused by doctor's faults.
Albizzia nails like the ones Guichet use cause delayed union and non union frequently because they are too thick and mostly because the way of clicking don't let the bone heal successfully.
I don't know about bliskunov nail but of course it can't be compared with stryde which is the best out there in terms of safety and weight bearing abilities.
Also, doing 11cm in one segment as you is a very bad choice for the future and no respectable doctor would let a patient lengthen that much.
Taken in mind all these things plus the 40k price which is way too expensive for a third world country like Ukraine where average salary is not even 250 euros per month (it is like paying about 500k dollars in USA for Stryde where the average salay is about 2500 dollars), I can't see whuy someone would go to Nemer.
If the price was about 20-25k euros max then maybe the risk would worth having an internal nail, but with that money (40k) you can have precise 2 in Greece so things seem simple to me about what my choice would have been.
Bodybuilder, how can it be 80% doctor if you divide the 4 phases into equal parts and the doctor only gets involved in the second? It's with attitudes like yours that patients go into LL and come out with less than desirable outcomes. For the record, I wasn't even thinking of non-union during my time.
I am guessing you're from the united states of decay? Ukraine may not be the richest country in Europe, but Kiev is certainly one of the greatest cities and all treatment here is undertaken in private facilities with modern equipment. Prices for most things private including western standard accommodation is around the same as in West Europe. Have a look at the link below
https://www.aimrealtykiev.com/
Also expect to pay around the same for food in the top restaurants, but there are many many good restaurants here with very reasonable prices and the food, most of which is locally organically grown, tastes amazing.
Jamal's nail comes in different sizes and all are fully weight bearing. The doctor selects the most appropriate nail for the patient given bone size etc. Everyone here seems to go on about Stryde's weight bearing capabilities, but guess what, the Bliskunov nail was weight bearing well over a quarter of a century ago!
"Also, doing 11cm in one segment as you is a very bad choice for the future and no respectable doctor would let a patient lengthen that much."
It was MY wish to lengthen so much, not the doctor's and I happen to be living in that future and doing just fine thank you very much!
You've name dropped Gotikas a couple of times now. Do you have an affiliation? I don't know about this doctor, but I don't think he was around during my time.
I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree. Al the best to you.
There are no 4 equal parts on LL. All these are bs.
LL has surgery, lengthening phase and rehabilitation.
The later has to do mainly with how successful the surgery was and how much and fast you lengthened. But the hard oart is to have a careful and capable doctor to do his work as he should.
Most patients who ended up crippled did that due to doctors faults.
No, I am from eu. And of course I don't have any affiliate with Giotikas, I did LL maybe even before Giotikas operated.
But 40k euros in an eu country for precise 2 is the best proce worldwide (even compared to third world India!) thats why I amways mention that doctor. I'll stop doing it if we have a bad case.
Finally, bliskunov is an obsolete nail which works like albizzia (both fully weight bearing) and needs to "rebrake" hundred of times your bone to lengthen. It is no match for futuristic magnetic nails like stryde which is the future of LL.
I don't have any issue with bliskunov nail, it is significant for that nail to have fully weight bearing abilities while it is so old and in my opinion it seems to be better than albizzia crap but still the price of Nemer makes that nail a bad choice.
@tlannister, I am sorry for my harsh tone towards you yesterday but you really got me all worked up. I can't be sure you are troll, even though your behaviour on here strongly suggests so. If you are in fact a short person who has been thinking of LL for a number of years, I wish you well and may you get what you want, be it extra height or any other thing in life, but please no more unsubstantiated comments.
@bodybuilder, Everyone is entitled to their opinion. The Bliskunov nail worked fine for me, I didn't need any extra bells and whistles on the nail.
he wrote this in a different thread:
Quote from: taller_in_Kiev on August 18, 2018, 04:15:05 PMGood God, not another un-Precise/Stryde promoter. Yeh dude, save up more money and spend it all on something that has no track record, imo just a load of hot air and fancy marketing. Or you can pay a sensible amount and go with something tried and tested, that has been around long before the likes of Paley even got acquainted with internal methods.
Trolls, please don't jump all over me again, but all you naive people going for this company's nail (Precise/Strye) are just being guinea pigs. That's right, guinea pigs! The long term recovery and what not through these nails are unknown.
this is really bad, admin/mod are gonna take action anytime soon? He mirrors the complaints on the nail he is promoting on Precice. this is a well known psychopath trait.
He has changed his modus operandi.
He stopped referring to Jamal in posts and instead added a signature with Kiev and Jamal in it.
He also has increased activity. Writes in every single thread even one-liners just to get more exposure.
This forum is going down the drain, mods please do something about this shill before innocent victims end up crippled by Jamal Abu
Quote from: tlannister on August 29, 2018, 11:04:03 AMHe has changed his modus operandi.
He stopped referring to Jamal in posts and instead added a signature with Kiev and Jamal in it.
He also has increased activity. Writes in every single thread even one-liners just to get more exposure.
This forum is going down the drain, mods please do something about this shill before innocent victims end up crippled by Jamal Abu
Tlannister, little fella, you don't cease to disappoint.
"He has changed his modus operandi.
He stopped referring to Jamal in posts and instead added a signature with Kiev and Jamal in it."
Actually, I've had my signature for a while now. Something you should know given how you're constantly sniffing around my back end. I copied the format of other former LLers stating where/which doctor, method etc. This helps to immediately identify and set apart genuine people like me who've had LL and are here to help others along the journey and you, just trolling around, making unsubstantiated, unfounded accusatory comments and you'll probably never have LL done yourself.
"He also has increased activity. Writes in every single thread even one-liners just to get more exposure."
Every single thread? Lol, come on. I write where I feel like it, I know it upsets you simply because you can't handle the fact I had an excellent outcome with a doctor whose guts you hate for no apparent reason)
"This forum is going down the drain, mods please do something about this shill before innocent victims end up crippled by Jamal Abu"
Sadly it does appear to be going down with folk like you around.
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