LL is the only reliable way to grow your height though. All ogher methods are unreliable or dangerous at the moment and height isnt as profitable as male pattern baldness or ED simply because most people arent bothered by their height that much.
It is true that people naturally discriminate against short men. It starts already in Kindergarden and high school, where the tall guys are the one that all the other guys want to be friends with, become the leaders, and all the girl are attracted to them.
I personally do not believe that tall men are nicers, smarter or better. However, even I have noticed the following: I saw a men sitting in a chair and talked to him, and thought he was good looking and smart and thus had high respect. But as soon as he got up and I saw he was much shorter than I expected, I could feel how my respect somehow decreased. And the exact opposite has happened again. So even though I rationally know this does not make sense, this is what naturally happens. So I believe height discrimination is something hard wired into our genes.
However, on a societal level finding ways to increase the height of the population does not solve the problem, because it is height of an individual in relation to his peer group. So for example, a man in North Korea, who is 5'6 might feel happy about his height, because he is taller than average, while a man in South Korea who is 5'7, might be unhappy about his height because he is shorter than average.
That also means that LL is no solution to the problem of height discrimination, because as some people become artificially taller, everyone else "suffers" from the increase in the average of the population. For example, imagine that 20% of the population do LL, then the people that were before close to average are now feeling really short and they also want to do LL, increasing the average even further. Finally, everyone does LL and everyone is worse off because they have to undergo a painful procedure but as the end result are comparatively to other the same as they were before.
Quote from: helloworld on April 30, 2017, 10:27:38 AM It starts already in Kindergarden and high school, where the tall guys are the one that all the other guys want to be friends with, become the leaders, and all the girl are attracted to them.
I haven't observed this. It's true that some kids were popular than others, but I didn't see a correlation with height in my own experiences.
I was popular as a teenager and I was always kinda short I guess. Except for a year when I had my growth spurt.I was chubby before then too lol. Afterwards I was skinny. I was never one of the sporty guys.
The popular kids were just the agreeable and fun ones. I got really popular as a teenager when I developed good social skills. Before then I was just weird. :-)
The popular kids are usually the outgoing ones who socialize more and are in more clubs/sports teams, height doesn't correlate much with popularity.
Quote from: cole slaws on April 30, 2017, 03:21:55 AMLL is the only reliable way to grow your height though. All ogher methods are unreliable or dangerous at the moment and height isnt as profitable as male pattern baldness or ED simply because most people arent bothered by their height that much.
This is not true though, the reason why it isnt as profitable is simply because there is no safe and reliable way too grow someone at the moment. Infact if there was a way too increase someones height it would be just as profitable if not even more than ED or baldness its just it is easier too figure those things out. And when you say most people arent bothered by their height that just is not true. There are studies that show for every 2 inch increase in height you risk of suicide goes down by 9 percent.
Height does not have to be the sole reason someone is popular and it should not be, however it is easier to be popular as someone who is of average height or taller than a shorter person. This leads too greater self confidence and carries on too being more social equaling more popularity.
Quote from: helloworld on April 30, 2017, 10:27:38 AMIt is true that people naturally discriminate against short men. It starts already in Kindergarden and high school, where the tall guys are the one that all the other guys want to be friends with, become the leaders, and all the girl are attracted to them.
I personally do not believe that tall men are nicers, smarter or better. However, even I have noticed the following: I saw a men sitting in a chair and talked to him, and thought he was good looking and smart and thus had high respect. But as soon as he got up and I saw he was much shorter than I expected, I could feel how my respect somehow decreased. And the exact opposite has happened again. So even though I rationally know this does not make sense, this is what naturally happens. So I believe height discrimination is something hard wired into our genes.
However, on a societal level finding ways to increase the height of the population does not solve the problem, because it is height of an individual in relation to his peer group. So for example, a man in North Korea, who is 5'6 might feel happy about his height, because he is taller than average, while a man in South Korea who is 5'7, might be unhappy about his height because he is shorter than average.
That also means that LL is no solution to the problem of height discrimination, because as some people become artificially taller, everyone else "suffers" from the increase in the average of the population. For example, imagine that 20% of the population do LL, then the people that were before close to average are now feeling really short and they also want to do LL, increasing the average even further. Finally, everyone does LL and everyone is worse off because they have to undergo a painful procedure but as the end result are comparatively to other the same as they were before.
So how can you say finding a way to make people taller is not the solution? If it is hard wired into our genes which it is than how would being able to grow not be the solution?
"For example, imagine that 20% of the population do LL, then the people that were before close to average are now feeling really short and they also want to do LL, increasing the average even further. Finally, everyone does LL and everyone is worse off because they have to undergo a painful procedure but as the end result are comparatively to other the same as they were before."
But how could you say they would be worse off if they were the same as everyone else in the end result? That is exactly what their goal is in the first place when people do ll which is too get on the same page and feel normal with everyone else.
Hi, I'm RealTrump, long time member and great LL veteran/hero.
We all hate new members because they don't bother researching or just plain dumb.
Quote from: Theman6 on April 29, 2017, 04:02:53 AMI messaged numerous LL doctors and was ready to choose between Dr.Guichet or Dr.Paley and begin with 3.5 cm on my femurs this summer.
Sent a couple e-mails, that's fantastic, seems like you are really committed to paying $100k for 3.5cm.
Quote from: Theman6 on April 29, 2017, 04:02:53 AMwe need too start a movement and find the cure for this because it is out there I know it is but we will never find it sitting on our asses bitching about how things will never change.
They discovered growth hormones in the 1920s, and the Ilizarov apparatus was first used in the 1950s.
Quote from: Theman6 on April 29, 2017, 04:02:53 AM I want to be taller more than anything in the world.
Then why the hell did you write this self defeating piece of crap post. I urge you to create a new account immediately.
Hello RealTrump, not sure what was self defeating about this and not sure why I would need too make a new account...
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