wannabe, let's walk through this slowly... i'll do it in baby steps...
1- russian guy is not a dr
2- russian guy can not properly evaluate the quality of his treatment, as he is not a dr, and has not went to other drs, therefore he has nothing to to compare his current treatment to... maybe the best way to evaluate his treatment is to base it on results
3-russian guy can not stand unaided or walk a year after surgery
4-since he can not currently walk or stand, it's a bit premature for him to label his treatment as good
very simple
TIBIA LENGTHENING IN MOSCOW WITH DR BAGIROV
Quote from: Sweden on August 05, 2014, 12:33:02 AMI don't have ballerina anymore. You can get rid of yours too.
My X-legs are coming along. You should have seen them in June last year - Christ it was bad.
Dr Jamal might be able to correct my X-legs next year.
Internals will be easier to do PT with.
mmm.... i take back what i said... i think you'll be ok eventually... idk... ill be serious now actually... i just don't understand why you would wanna do it again, your height is fine... but i know it's your decision... i know people in sweden are tall, but you are married, etc etc... i don't know, it doesn't seem worth it, but for you, maybe it is... it will all work out eventually....
Quote from: crimsontide on August 05, 2014, 12:41:24 AMwannabe, let's walk through this slowly... i'll do it in baby steps...
1- russian guy is not a dr
2- russian guy can not properly evaluate the quality of his treatment, as he is not a dr, and has not went to other drs, therefore he has nothing to to compare his current treatment to... maybe the best way to evaluate his treatment is to base it on results
3-russian guy can not stand unaided or walk a year after surgery
4-since he can not currently walk or stand, it's a bit premature for him to label his treatment as good
very simple
wow the stupidity...
You are not a doctor either so with your logic your evaluation of Bagirov means nothing either. You havent went to other doctors either, and you cannot walk. Regardless of what you chose to do from this point you will have problems down the line, and not just in one year, most likely permanent ones.
............. Also, it's a cool thing to have done in life 
Personally I've stopped trying to understand other peoples choices. I haven't done all the best choices in life but many others have done much worse which is none of my business.
I just might try to do my upper arms for 2-3cm. That's gonna make my wingspan equal to my new height next year.
Don't take it so seriously, I'm just dreaming away now. The clock is 3 am here and it's too hot to sleep.
I'm not so sure doing upper arms is a good idea. Imagine your elbows be down at your hip 
Goodnight!
one difference there.... i did not state bagirov was bad, or say don't go to him... perhaps you missed that, its understandable when you are overwhelmed with rage and fury from my posts
and btw, a little fyi, i am not a dr, but i have seen how top drs treat conditions such as these... and i can walk... i just can't turn.... but once i get a release, ill be able to do that too
as for your assertion i will have permanent issues down the line.... i see I've gotten to you.... what you say might, not likely,... but might be true if i had decided to not get second opinions....
you want to see me get permanent issues, because you think i belittle you on an anonymous message board... you know the dylan song positively 4th street....... i am in your head
dr wannabe, can you please tell me the permanent issues i will get??
be concise please... ty
Quote from: Sweden on August 05, 2014, 01:02:27 AM............. Also, it's a cool thing to have done in life 
Personally I've stopped trying to understand other peoples choices. I haven't done all the best choices in life but many others have done much worse which is none of my business.
I just might try to do my upper arms for 2-3cm. That's gonna make my wingspan equal to my new height next year.
Don't take it so seriously, I'm just dreaming away now. The clock is 3 am here and it's too hot to sleep.
I'm not so sure doing upper arms is a good idea. Imagine your elbows be down at your hip 
Goodnight!
goodnight.... you'll be fine
Quote from: crimsontide on August 05, 2014, 01:05:29 AMone difference there.... i did not state bagirov was bad, or say don't go to him... perhaps you missed that, its understandable when you are overwhelmed with rage and fury from my posts
and btw, a little fyi, i am not a dr, but i have seen how top drs treat conditions such as these... and i can walk... i just can't turn.... but once i get a release, ill be able to do that too
as for your assertion i will have permanent issues down the line.... i see I've gotten to you.... what you say might, not likely,... but might be true if i had decided to not get second opinions....
you want to see me get permanent issues, because you think i belittle you on an anonymous message board... you know the dylan song positively 4th street....... i am in your head
dr wannabe, can you please tell me the permanent issues i will get??
be concise please... ty
You said it was a mistake going to Bagirov. And you claim they are partly to blame for your problems. However we can dismiss all of that which you are saying since you have severe ballerina. Thats what you are doing in regards to the russian guy, who btw can walk, if what you can do now (as you have described it) qualifies as walking then he is in a better shape than you are. You both need aid to walk. No difference there.
And im hardly angry, its 3 am and i have nothing better to do right now, i dont care about your results, Its quite hilarious the childlike reasoning you have. The only reason im still here refuting you is because your diary could affect others decisions.
Its more than likely to happen to you if you get a release. In fact since you lengthened 8 cm and at a fast speed you are likely to have some issues permanently regardless if you do a release or not. But if i actually cared enough to want you to ruin your own body i wouldnt have given you any advice here from the start.
I dont see how you could belittle me when you are the one in the embarrassing condition. I dont care about your opinion.
well... mistake.... hmmmmm, in the long run, it won't matter but short term, probably... i guess that's a fair statement... again, its not a universal statement though
i can do more than russian guy now actually... as far as flexibility... though I've lengthened almost twice the amount he has, and had surgery 7 months after him....
refuting... hmmm.... we must have a different definition of refutation, but ok:)
again, you state I'm likely to have some permanent issues... we'll, how about backing up that statement
you obviously care about my opinion... otherwise you wouldn't be replying to my every word... and its been all day, not just now..... that you say you don't care shows how much you really do care....
btw, i had surgery in early april... I've lengthened slightly below 8 cm... comes out to around a little less than 2 cm a month... which means less than 1mm a day
wannabe, go to sleep...
Quote from: crimsontide on August 05, 2014, 01:33:10 AMwell... mistake.... hmmmmm, in the long run, it won't matter but short term, probably... i guess that's a fair statement... again, its not a universal statement though
i can do more than russian guy now actually... as far as flexibility... though I've lengthened almost twice the amount he has, and had surgery 7 months after him....
refuting... hmmm.... we must have a different definition of refutation, but ok:)
again, you state I'm likely to have some permanent issues... we'll, how about backing up that statement
you obviously care about my opinion... otherwise you wouldn't be replying to my every word... and its been all day, not just now..... that you say you don't care shows how much you really do care....
btw, i had surgery in early april... I've lengthened slightly below 8 cm... comes out to around a little less than 2 cm a month... which means less than 1mm a day
wannabe, go to sleep...
Im in my house and on my computer most of the day until im done with LL. And it doesnt take long to write a response because you are repeating yourself with the same stupid arguments every time.
I already said i care about how it affects other future patients. Why in the world would i care about your result? lmfao dont flatter yourself, i dont care about you or your legs. You will do what want to do with your legs regardless of the advice you get, not like i can affect that. I can affect what others think by refuting your excuses as to why you ended up in this sad state.
Your problems will matter long term. be in denial all you want. Getting a release has long term/permanent negative effects. Lengthening 8 cm and at faster than recommended speed also, if you get nails you will get other additional problems. Plates are largely unknown how they will affect you long term.
He has as much flexibility as you if not more so. he has ballerina in one foot. You have in both and its more severe, as you said yourself it was extreme. And you have the choice of doing pt (which will be better long term but 7 months from now you will likely still have problems with it) or you can do the lazy and easy way and doing a release which will instead have a permanent effect on your tendon strength.
wannabe,
you do realize that when i say do not reply... or go to sleep.... i know you will reply... i mean, you must have figured this out by now... ever hear the song... I'm your puppet.... great song btw, anyway
nails... who cares,I'm not getting nails.... getting a release, well, don't get me wrong wannabe, i don't doubt your medical qualifications, but perhaps we can see some statistics on cll patients that get releases... plates do not cause knee issues... I've been explicitly told this by more than 1 top dr
as far as him having more flexibility.... you are simply arguing to argue... i can right now, while having ballerina, and 7 months less time to consolidate, squat,etc.... though again, i can't be sure at this moment how flexible he is.... unlike yourself... i'm not all knowing
again wannabe, maybe I'm in denial.. its possible... but you don't seem to have articulated what my future permanent problems will be??? id be in a better position to reply if you actually stated what my long term issues will be... i don't mean to denigrate your obviously vast knowledge of medical knowledge... god forbid... id just like you to enlighten us with some of your wisdom
wannabe, if i'm stupid, as you put it, then what word describes the person that engages in pointless back and forth with said stupid person?
think deeply about this... breathe in and out.... you care far too much about what i think or post.... you're thinking way too much about me... in a way it's flattering, but also a bit creepy .. ......
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