TIBIA LENGTHENING IN MOSCOW WITH DR BAGIROV

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I was told to be nice, and not reply.... so


i will simply list the facts... forget about all the hearsay you've heard today... lets examine the facts


we are aware of maybe 4 or 5 case studies of cll with bagirov

1- russian girl- 2 years later,, can't walk
2-russian guy- almost a year later, lengthened 4 cm, still can't walk, can not even stand unaided
3- me...
4- another patient that wrote  a diary and had alignment issues
5- wannabe

these are the 5 confirmed cases studies.... i will leave out the man in baku, though he exists

now,  out of these 5 cases, 4 have had serious issues.... 80%.... again, i won't go into speculating on why or how ... just listing facts...

i have not promoted any other dr in here... though I've been in contact with 2,  shah and birkholtz, and will give a positive review if  i get a release from either of them... only way I'm not giving a positive review is if   they cripple me.... the ballerina is that bad..  i just want it gone... but I'm being upfront about this

now wannabe    seems to have a passion for defending this clinic... i have  an opinion on why this is, but i won't say why, and  anyway, it would just be my opinion, not a fact.... i could be wrong about what i'm thinking

now this conversation has gone in circles for a long time... basically it boils down to this

 i feel members here should know the full details  and be informed before making their decision..

forget all the assumptions, and assertions made which can't be proven...  look at the 5 confirmed case..... think

and regarding   dr fahri performing a surgery alone, and showing me photos of the man with crooked legs, it is 100% true... to me, it is useless to argue... simply say  you think i'm lying or move on...  i was there, no one  else but dr fahri was there

i am not lying about it though... you can simply believe me or not, but i will  state it, as it happened... these are the things members must know.... everything else, the petty bickering, he said she said, that can be deleted...the 5 case studies we have, and the incident  with dr fahri are the only things that really matter....   i won't speculate on why the man in baku had crooked legs, or out of 5 case studies, 80% have had serious issues... 2 very serious...

you  members are intelligent enough to  take in the information and  make a decision for yourselves
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I think this discussion has been going into circles. Everyone is entitled to an opinion/perspective but express it in a non hostile/insulting manner.   

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dameon... i know you said to not reply, but i think  my reply was warranted

i did not make any assumptions, or speculate... i simply gave the verified cases of cll with bagirov... and listed facts that seem to not be in dispute... members can decide for themselves the reasons wh... if it's solely the fault of the patients, or the doctors, or a mix of both


I apologize if I hurt anyone's feelings

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As I said don't reply to insults/hostility of each other.    Feel free to continue discussing about the facts related to the Dr,  but stick to the topic without resorting to insults/hostility. 

I have edit comments that fall into that insults/hostlity catergory (ie: shut up and fk) and pm wannabegiant and crimsontide which comments they are. 

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to me, the matter is done... thee is no point in  going over the same thing over and over... it's giving me a headache....


and what i care about most right nose is fixing the ballerina so I'm whole again.

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My intention was not to hurt your feelings, but i will tell you this crimson. I know for a fact that you where warned about many of the complications you now have, and you ignored them. I have the screen savers, but it would be very low to post them, and our mutual friend talked me out of doing it. Instead. He will register to this forum some time tomorrow and give his opinion on this clinic, as well as proving that you did indeed get the instructions you needed and the warnings of not lengthening to much etc.

This will give a more unbiased view of the clinic and what issues are with the doctors and what is the patients responsibility.

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to  get back on point...

i just noticed regarding  achilles release... dr catagni says it is needed in 70% of patients doing more than 3-5 cm


so  there's another dr that recognizes the need for  achilles release

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This isn't true at all, release surgery is only needed if you are to stupid to do PT. Ballerina will resolve with time an PT.

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he can  post up if needed...

 i do not care...

 to be honest, i feel bad using him as an example... but its the truth.... he can not walk, and who knows when he can... that's all i need to hear... he is still under the care of bagirov, so i understand   why he   hopes for the best, and would not wanna say anything negative about him

by the way... i did not follow his advice, it is true... but why would i... he can not walk after a year...  would you take swimming lessons from someone that can't swim.... his advice for ballerina was to put blocks under my  heels..... pretty sure that  would not have helped my ballerina

i like the guy, though again, i've never met him... and we did not speak that much.. to say he can prove what i was told.... he  was not there, we never met even once... he can say what bagirov/fahri  now tells him to say, but he was not there....

it all comes down to results.... the guy can't walk, and still has frames on, after almost a year, or maybe it is a year now... he can say what he wants, but he can't walk, or even stand unaided... i care about results, and when i see not just him, but others having issues long after, i start to  wonder whether i should get a second opinion


it comes down to this....  i wanna see a video of him walking... i don't care about words....   he hasn't been lengthening for a while,, supposedly he's doing things correctly now,  well, then let's see when these frames come off and he's walking unaided without ballerina .... its a year now....   

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Quote from: 123 on August 04, 2014, 09:17:38 PMThis isn't true at all, release surgery is only needed if you are to stupid to do PT. Ballerina will resolve with time an PT.

  argue with   dr catagni, i'm stating what's in his profile... too stupid btw, not to...

and no, ballerina does not always resolve, and even if it does...  are the issues that arise from having ballerina over a year   less detrimental than having a release


sweden has stated  recently he still has issues with his ankle because his ballerina is not  totally fixed yet.... that's a long time...