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Posted on Oct 23, 2023, 8:49 pm
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Hi all — I am not sure who is the best person to answer this (hopefully past patients), but I have read a lot of diaries here which (perhaps rightly so) venerate the height bump. However, there has to be someone who thinks this surgery was underwhelming. There is a lot of girls racially profiling guys, so no matter what your height is if a girl is shallow, height won't beat it. Is the claim that height is a bigger factor than other social factors (money, facial features, race) for men.
And then I wonder when people (excluding dating scenarios) see you with the increased height, do they really respect you more or less? I know we will in a shallow world, but is that very prevalent and obvious in real life?

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Posted on Oct 23, 2023, 9:14 pm
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Quote from: letsgo on October 23, 2023, 08:49:05 PMHi all — I am not sure who is the best person to answer this (hopefully past patients), but I have read a lot of diaries here which (perhaps rightly so) venerate the height bump. However, there has to be someone who thinks this surgery was underwhelming. There is a lot of girls racially profiling guys, so no matter what your height is if a girl is shallow, height won't beat it. Is the claim that height is a bigger factor than other social factors (money, facial features, race) for men.
And then I wonder when people (excluding dating scenarios) see you with the increased height, do they really respect you more or less? I know we will in a shallow world, but is that very prevalent and obvious in real life?

Stop caring about what others think and the only good reason to do this surgery is doing it for yourself. Don't give people so much control over your life they don't even care if you live or die.
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Posted on Oct 23, 2023, 10:11 pm
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Height isn't everything, yes. It's one factor of many.
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Posted on Oct 23, 2023, 10:15 pm
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Quote from: letsgo on October 23, 2023, 08:49:05 PMHi all — I am not sure who is the best person to answer this (hopefully past patients), but I have read a lot of diaries here which (perhaps rightly so) venerate the height bump. However, there has to be someone who thinks this surgery was underwhelming. There is a lot of girls racially profiling guys, so no matter what your height is if a girl is shallow, height won't beat it. Is the claim that height is a bigger factor than other social factors (money, facial features, race) for men.
And then I wonder when people (excluding dating scenarios) see you with the increased height, do they really respect you more or less? I know we will in a shallow world, but is that very prevalent and obvious in real life?
as a close female friend put it, a guy with decent height and who is comfortable in his own skin beats anything.you will find guys who aren't that good looking but are competitive and confident, girls are attracted towards them period. "good looks" or the social factors as you mentioned will get the convo started but your attitude will decide if they stay. and irrespective of the gender people will only respect you when you have that for your self first, in my personal experience.
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Posted on Oct 23, 2023, 10:44 pm
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   Si LL is not for you, I mean I going to do it in part of having better partner but you do it for you, it seems that you whant to impress a particular girl, there are many anyways
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Posted on Oct 23, 2023, 11:31 pm
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To answer your question. For dating, I think money is the biggest factor. Say you have "nothing" except for money, then pretty girl will still date you. How do you think rich old guys get pretty young girls? Do you honestly think these girls are attracted to them physically? No, they treat it as a high-paying job. Of course, I will never say this when I see an old-young couple in a public but we all know it, we just don't say it.
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Posted on Oct 24, 2023, 12:01 am
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Quote from: reaopard on October 23, 2023, 10:15:26 PMas a close female friend put it, a guy with decent height and who is comfortable in his own skin beats anything.you will find guys who aren't that good looking but are competitive and confident, girls are attracted towards them period. "good looks" or the social factors as you mentioned will get the convo started but your attitude will decide if they stay. and irrespective of the gender people will only respect you when you have that for your self first, in my personal experience.
Yes but what if you dont have a “decent height”?
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Posted on Oct 24, 2023, 1:10 am
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First, I agree you need to care less about what people would think, but unfortunately height has a social impact and saying that "do it for you" implies that we don't think height bump will have social gains which later translate to personal well being. It is definitely tied up society and its perception. I don't know it might be just my personal experience, but being below average height would have been fine for me if the world didn't discriminate based on height. Slowly but surely we accumulate height debt.

Second, exactly decent height is key there. And there is something to be said about what makes a man desirable; money for sure but i think there are a lot of men with avg height and were acceptable, whereas there are a lot of short kings just not making the cut.

Anyway thanks for the input guys! looking for an ex patient to add their perspective (people who did it a few years back and were below avg but now are avg or above)
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Posted on Oct 24, 2023, 3:55 am
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The people most likely to be in the category of "I got LL, but I am underwhelmed" are people that are already average height 5'10+ or tall. A man that is 6'0"/183cm getting this surgery will see almost no benefit. They would see no financial benefit, and they would see hardly a noticeable romantic benefit, possibly even a decrease if they go too far(Past 6'2", your romantic chances actually go down!) They would be far better off getting a rhinoplasty if they have a bad nose, braces if they have bad teeth, hair transplant if they are balding, or jaw surgery(BSSO, genioplasty, & LeFort I) to increase their overall attractiveness, and thus boost their halo effect.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4757567/

https://www.gertstulp.com/pdf/Stulp%20et%20al%202013_Anim%20Behav_The%20height%20of%20choosiness.pdf





Edit; Forgot to add this one. Here's a video from HJ on the financial impact.

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Posted on Oct 24, 2023, 8:18 am
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*BRUH*
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