Quote from: Annalisa on August 28, 2016, 12:00:12 PMOh, about the questions I have, some of them came to my mind.
I'm not in my best shape. I'm very skinny, but I have a very sedentary life, I spend too much time sitting in front of the pc, so that I have also developed back pain and slow blod circulation. Do you think that, if somebody is not trained to any workout, it will take more than 1 month of pre-op to develop the right conditions for the operation? Also, if one has a back defect such a lordosis, because of the much time spended seated, do you belive the dottor require the problem to be solved first, in oder to start the lengthening?
Finally, what about dental examination? I know it is to prevent bacteria infections during the operation, but I wonder if I should to go to the dentist to assure I'm caries free and maybe do a dental cleaning.
1) YES, you have to fatten up even if it means force feeding aka foie gras! People who have not enough fat encounter nerve pain issues.
2) It definitely takes more than 1 month to train pre-op especially if you want to meet the 30% muscle increase. Some people train for 2 years before this surgery. I was running and biking in the park about 2 hours a day anyway before starting pre-op training. But you need MUSCLES and FLEXIBILITY. It's not an option, it will reduce your pain levels and increase your recovery rate.
3) As for Lordosis, I have no idea. I can tell you that the surgery affects your spine because you'll be immobile and will overcompensate every part of your body. I had backaches and in the beginning I could not lie flat on my back because my spine was curved inwards. It was so painful. Need CORE MUSCLES.
4) The list of exams he needs are easy to fulfil, it just takes a lot of time and coordination. Dental, he needs xrays and also a report that there are no current cavities, infections etc. I did a cleaning as well before the surgery, just in case.
Best thing is to see Guichet and discuss everything with him and he'll be able to tell you asap whether you're a good candidate to gain x cm. He can tell from flexibility and his measurements. Then the rest will depend on all the tests. Don't underestimate the psychological exam, he takes that heavily into account because he cannot afford to expose anyone who is too mentally weak to follow through with the recovery and end up worst off.
UNICORN - Dr. Guichet Internal Femurs 8cm - Summer 2016
Oh damn, 2 years is not acceptable. It will already take years before I have the money to get operated, I cannot think to wait others more years. I need to lengthen as soon as possible, cause it is fundamental to me to restarts my life. Do you have tips to speed up the training process? Maybe start using the cyclette at home from now on? He says is better to have 1 month of pre-training,but since you said is is not suffient, should I count 2-3 months of pre-training, and so prepare for a bigger budget? Cause I would prefer to do the training with Guichet trainers, in Mylan; as I will more motivated under tthe trainers and the doctor's watch.
Also, for the psychological part. I don't think anybody in the world is more motivated than me, to reach this goal. I'm not scared of any pain, the pain will make me happy, because it would mean I'm realizing the dream of my lifetime. But I'm scared that he could think I'm weak because I allowed my height to prevent me from having a social life. Do you think, that insisting on the fact lengthening is important to me, and I'm willing to endure all the pain of the world to reach it, will be enough to convince him that I'm psychologically strong enough for the operation?
Quote from: Annalisa on August 28, 2016, 03:18:10 PMOh damn, 2 years is not acceptable. It will already take years before I have the money to get operated, I cannot think to wait others more years. I need to lengthen as soon as possible, cause it is fundamental to me to restarts my life. Do you have tips to speed up the training process? Maybe start using the cyclette at home from now on? He says is better to have 1 month of pre-training,but since you said is is not suffient, should I count 2-3 months of pre-training, and so prepare for a bigger budget? Cause I would prefer to do the training with Guichet trainers, in Mylan; as I will more motivated under tthe trainers and the doctor's watch.
Also, for the psychological part. I don't think anybody in the world is more motivated than me, to reach this goal. I'm not scared of any pain, the pain will make me happy, because it would mean I'm realizing the dream of my lifetime. But I'm scared that he could think I'm weak because I allowed my height to prevent me from having a social life. Do you think, that insisting on the fact lengthening is important to me, and I'm willing to endure all the pain of the world to reach it, will be enough to convince him that I'm psychologically strong enough for the operation?
Dear Annalisa,
I'm just giving an example of how some people train for 2 years because they lack flexibility. And that's the hardest to really train for, yet one of the key qualities to have.
1) First step is to see Guichet, get an assessment of your candidacy for LL (esp flexibility) which costs £300 in London
2) If you're serious, then pay and take the Cybex test for your base strength (once you know you'll be training to have surgery within a short time period)
3) 2-3 month training is sufficient to pass the 30% improvement. You don't have to necessarily pay and do Guichet's training because it's pretty standard quad/hamstring training stuff. It's not like Guichet is there to monitor you. It's just normal gym trainers and his physio can give you the training requirements to strengthen your body. It's not worth the extra money spent to be in Milan earlier and start racking up expenses.
I did Guichet's physio pre-training because I live in London and also, I know I'd be too lazy and not disciplined to train 2-3 hours per day at the gym to prepare for this surgery. So I forced myself and I found it super helpful, because I got my ass kicked everyday!
4) Once you think you're ready, go for another Cybex test to see if you've improved your strength by 30% and if not, you can train some more and take the test again and again. In London, it costs £150 each time. I got lucky as I passed it right away!
5) In the meantime, you've to undergo all the pre-op testing which is a considerable expense. So, once you've decided, then start investing, otherwise, it'd be a waste of money as Guichet only accepts test results of less than 90 days (and even then, he complains it's too old...!!!)
6) As for the psychological component, he sends you to a separate doc. He cares that you're able to withstand the pain and click through and get to your goal without breaking down, quitting and jeopardising your health/mobility. And I PROMISE you, everyone I've seen including myself have reached pit bottom a couple of times. But we try to survive. The Psych also wants to make sure that your rationale for doing LL is realistic and not delusional (like getting a tall guy to love you or winning an ex boyfriend back etc.). It has to be FOR YOU and that even as a taller person, if you don't reach your underlying heart's desires (career success, promotion, love, admiration etc), you'd be ok. That LL is not a means to an end...
Thank you, you're helping me so much to remove my doubts. I'm so unflexible right now, that I know if did the operation right now, I would have load of complications. The cybex you're talking about, is it the test in the sport centre, Guichet require you to do before meeting him? The reason I would prefer staying in Mylan for longer, even if it requires more money, is it because with trainers I would be more motivated and do the exercise better. Otherwise, do Guichet's trainers tell me which exercise to do at home? For the exams, is it better to start doing them about 1 months before the cibex test, so that they will not be too old when I take them to the doctors? Anyway, thanks again, and good luck.
Quote from: Annalisa on August 29, 2016, 07:25:25 AMThank you, you're helping me so much to remove my doubts. I'm so unflexible right now, that I know if did the operation right now, I would have load of complications. The cybex you're talking about, is it the test in the sport centre, Guichet require you to do before meeting him? The reason I would prefer staying in Mylan for longer, even if it requires more money, is it because with trainers I would be more motivated and do the exercise better. Otherwise, do Guichet's trainers tell me which exercise to do at home? For the exams, is it better to start doing them about 1 months before the cibex test, so that they will not be too old when I take them to the doctors? Anyway, thanks again, and good luck.
Hi Annalisa,
I think you're asking about timeline here. Usually start with an appointment with Guichet. See if you like him and trust him and his method.
After that, you can book a Cyber test at the Isokinetic centre in Milan or London to take the initial test (you don't have to train for the first test as it's your base case scenario).
Then, usually, Guichet will send you his pricing invoice, prescriptions and training options with his physio. If you agree, you pay a deposit and start registering at the gym and train with his physio.
In the meantime, you'll start doing your other tests (ECG, psych, dental...etc) and you'll meet with Guichet a few times more to sign docs and also an essay of your motivation.
Once you think you're ready to take the second Cybex, if your results are above 30%, you'll start to pencil in a date with Guichet.
That's how it's been for me. I trained for about 2 weeks but about 4 hours per day because I didn't want to wait forever to achieve the 30% strength, and wanted to complete the LL procedure this summer/fall.
Thanks, now my head is clearer. Hope you are ok. I will keep following your journey. Good luck.
Hi Unicorn,
I enjoyed reading your diary for your LL experience and your humor. Sorry to hear you that you encountered a complication. I hope you're doing ok or on the road to recovery soon.
Please keep us updated, even if just a one liner of hello.
Best Wishes
Unicorn, I am worried. How are you? Did you have surgery?
Hey Unicorn!! Where have you been? This forum is dull without your bubbly posts! Hope everything's well and please let us know, yeah? 
why do people use clicking nail when magnetic nail is available??
i saw doctor section and there are quite cheap doctos with precise nailing.
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