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Posted on Jan 10, 2022, 6:40 am
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Since Stryde was recalled there has been a decrease in actual LL discussion while off topic has dramatically increased. Until nuvasive or synoste get a new full weight bearing nail out this will continue to be the case. Thoughts?
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Posted on Jan 10, 2022, 1:37 pm
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Quote from: Highest on January 10, 2022, 06:40:35 AMSince Stryde was recalled there has been a decrease in actual LL discussion while off topic has dramatically increased. Until nuvasive or synoste get a new full weight bearing nail out this will continue to be the case. Thoughts?
Yes n I also hope so .
LL discussions section is becoming a joke and new people just hop on n make questions answeared billion of times.
I said I hope because Nuvasive n Synoste will never say "we creating a new nail to make ppl taller" but they know that the market is bug and that cosmetic patients are the most profitable ones so if less ppl undergo the surgery , they will rush the process in order to get the market .
If Synoste (thankfully they doing trials) happens to release it n trials shows no rust with their new lenghetning mechanism , we would have a new era since Nuvasive arrogance since they monopolized the market lead to stryde n its issues with no trials or testings ( I wonder how could that be legal?!) .
I wish also that doctors who are very skilled in deformity corrections around the world ,starts offering this procedure but not advertising it ,in order to have more doctors (maybe also closer to our hometown) but less salesmans.
This surgery is for our mental health more then for our aesthetic part ,so we need to find ppl who care about our well being somehow and not just about our money .
Given the situation , I hope less ppl undergo this surgery with P2 so that we can have a better nail sooner because P2 it's just too much to handle psychologically (at least for me).

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Posted on Jan 11, 2022, 7:54 pm
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I think I desreve credit for some of this.  Over the past few months I've been moving everything even remotely LL-related out of the off topic forum.  I think this created a more conducive environemnt for discussing other things here; the place might be a ghost town otherwise.
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Posted on Jan 11, 2022, 8:28 pm
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I think doctors like Mahboubian are contributing to the destruction of his own practice. Him posting on tiktok and spamming articles in my email that are obvious height dysphoria bait. I think there are a lot of posts right now that sound like frustrated young men who haven’t had a healthy sexual relationship yet. They see something like what Dr.M posts and come here to vent or troll post etc.

I’m worried that this forum, which is the most accurate representation of the LL community as a whole, will be overrun with posts about the evils of women, fantasies of beating up tall guys, troll posts, and general teen angst. I think this forum is going to go down the  ter the more that young people learn about the surgery. At some point it’s going to get so bad that either there will be a huge shift in posting rules and how strictly they are enforced or the og adult posters will just leave.
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Posted on Jan 11, 2022, 9:32 pm
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Quote from: Sambollio on January 11, 2022, 08:28:38 PMI think doctors like Mahboubian are contributing to the destruction of his own practice. Him posting on tiktok and spamming articles in my email that are obvious height dysphoria bait. I think there are a lot of posts right now that sound like frustrated young men who haven’t had a healthy sxxual relationship yet. They see something like what Dr.M posts and come here to vent or troll post etc.

I’m worried that this forum, which is the most accurate representation of the LL community as a whole, will be overrun with posts about the evils of women, fantasies of beating up tall guys, troll posts, and general teen angst. I think this forum is going to go down the  ter the more that young people learn about the surgery. At some point it’s going to get so bad that either there will be a huge shift in posting rules and how strictly they are enforced or the og adult posters will just leave.
I don't like you , but I have to agree on everything you said .
We are full of the genZ story which is a joke , of people claiming to be suicidal ,unhealthy ideas of womens in general as if it was their fault if we have height dysphoria or if the deep meaning of life was to be taller to get girls .
This surgery is much more then this n also..people here talking about android girls , being alone forever , technology to reverse aging in future to make LL in 20(??) in a ''safer'' way ...I think moderators here ( @MDOW etc. ) should message,strike or ban some users who tells others that is better to kill themself because life is this or that !

I joined this forum after reading it for long time because I wanted infos on LL n not talk to creepy people .
Honestly years ago I rarely saw stupid posts back to back like now or crazy comments full of anger n ignorance .
What is the limit in this forum for someone to be banned if suicidal topics/comments are accepted ?
Wish something will change soon !
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Posted on Jan 11, 2022, 9:55 pm
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Quote from: Masteryourlife on January 11, 2022, 09:32:29 PMI don't like you , but I have to agree on everything you said .
We are full of the genZ story which is a joke , of people claiming to be suicidal ,unhealthy ideas of womens in general as if it was their fault if we have height dysphoria or if the deep meaning of life was to be taller to get girls .
This surgery is much more then this n also..people here talking about android girls , being alone forever , technology to reverse aging in future to make LL in 20(??) in a ''safer'' way ...I think moderators here ( @MDOW etc. ) should message,strike or ban some users who tells others that is better to kill themself because life is this or that !

I joined this forum after reading it for long time because I wanted infos on LL n not talk to creepy people .
Honestly years ago I rarely saw stupid posts back to back like now or crazy comments full of anger n ignorance .
What is the limit in this forum for someone to be banned if suicidal topics/comments are accepted ?
Wish something will change soon !

What the hell is happening to this forum? Instead of discussing valuable information on limb lengthening, we are stuck with posts like:

Designing female androids so incels don't have to resort to pr0st!tutes anymore.
Magically lengthening bones without an osteotomy by the year 20XX
Reverse aging technology by the year 20XX
Short guy fantasies of beating up someone taller than you because you are jealous of their height
Stretching your neck hanging from a hood to get taller
Suicide: how you have no reason to live if you are below a certain height. What's next, are we going to have a discussion on how to commit suicide in the most painless and efficient manner?! What the hell are these moderators and admins doing to allow this website go down the sh!thole?
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Posted on Jan 12, 2022, 10:44 am
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Quote from: Masteryourlife on January 11, 2022, 09:32:29 PMI don't like you , but I have to agree on everything you said .
We are full of the genZ story which is a joke , of people claiming to be suicidal ,unhealthy ideas of womens in general as if it was their fault if we have height dysphoria or if the deep meaning of life was to be taller to get girls .
This surgery is much more then this n also..people here talking about android girls , being alone forever , technology to reverse aging in future to make LL in 20(??) in a ''safer'' way ...I think moderators here ( @MDOW etc. ) should message,strike or ban some users who tells others that is better to kill themself because life is this or that !

I joined this forum after reading it for long time because I wanted infos on LL n not talk to creepy people .
Honestly years ago I rarely saw stupid posts back to back like now or crazy comments full of anger n ignorance .
What is the limit in this forum for someone to be banned if suicidal topics/comments are accepted ?
Wish something will change soon !

Mate you're 5'9 which is US national average. You haven't seen that some people on this forum are like 5'2-5'6 which obviously you can't blame them that they will feel suicidal in our judgemental society.
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Posted on Jan 12, 2022, 11:41 am
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Quote from: Audous on January 12, 2022, 10:44:34 AMMate you're 5'9 which is US national average. You haven't seen that some people on this forum are like 5'2-5'6 which obviously you can't blame them that they will feel suicidal in our judgemental society.
There is a guy going around here at 5'7 ( can't remember his nickname) who goes around the forum saying this creepy things n as I said ,some would rather have degenerative diseases then being short which makes no sense to begin with because a degenerative disease it's by definition a disease u can't solve n will prevent u from doing basic tasks so what is the porpuse of being 6'5 with such a disease ?!
Ofc feeling a certain way can be understandable as ppl kill themself for way less then this but :

A- this is not the place to use such terms because ppl here are stressed n tired to begin with because this surgery is no joke
B- Saying such statements put downs other users who might have the same height but not same feelings.

This forum is about the surgery , not for psychological issues/evaluations that needs to be addressed by a psychiatrist at those stages .
Your statement it's not with hate but how do u think someone who js 5'2 to 5'6 or even less feels reading your comment ?

This surgery it's not just for short ppl to become avarage or for avarage ones to become tall ;
It is for everyone who wants to grow psychologically n physically n the happines of someone going from 5'2 to 5'7 with 2 surgeries might be x10 times mine that I go from 5'9 to almost 6 ft .
I can't understand because I feel short at 5'9 so for me 5'7 its even shorter then my starting height but he can't understand me either so its SO personal that no one should be allowed to judge how much happiness they can gain from going from tot height to another one .
Its individual n we can relate with the feelings of each other but we can't relate with their porpuses n situations so certain extreme personal pov should remain out of this forum according to me .
This should be a safe place ,not a toxic judgmental platform to make feel ppl even shorter or worst !
I'm by no mean the best or kind guy out there but there has to be a limit here and we all should STICK to the forum n the surgery .
Personal general opinions are welcome as might help in making a better decision but the ppl going around lately are probably not even 18 n are messing everything up because actuall ppl who wants this surgery are between 20-40 with normal lifes , normal looks,normal brain,normal or even good jobs n since this forum its anonymous we have no clue to who we are talking to n since we are sensitive to this topic we might take for good the opinion of a retard kid.
Some rules should be applied ,hopefully !!
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Posted on Jan 12, 2022, 1:00 pm
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Quote from: Masteryourlife on January 12, 2022, 11:41:16 AMThere is a guy going around here at 5'7 ( can't remember his nickname) who goes around the forum saying this creepy things n as I said ,some would rather have degenerative diseases then being short which makes no sense to begin with because a degenerative disease it's by definition a disease u can't solve n will prevent u from doing basic tasks so what is the porpuse of being 6'5 with such a disease ?!
Ofc feeling a certain way can be understandable as ppl kill themself for way less then this but :

A- this is not the place to use such terms because ppl here are stressed n tired to begin with because this surgery is no joke
B- Saying such statements put downs other users who might have the same height but not same feelings.

This forum is about the surgery , not for psychological issues/evaluations that needs to be addressed by a psychiatrist at those stages .
Your statement it's not with hate but how do u think someone who js 5'2 to 5'6 or even less feels reading your comment ?

This surgery it's not just for short ppl to become avarage or for avarage ones to become tall ;
It is for everyone who wants to grow psychologically n physically n the happines of someone going from 5'2 to 5'7 with 2 surgeries might be x10 times mine that I go from 5'9 to almost 6 ft .
I can't understand because I feel short at 5'9 so for me 5'7 its even shorter then my starting height but he can't understand me either so its SO personal that no one should be allowed to judge how much happiness they can gain from going from tot height to another one .
Its individual n we can relate with the feelings of each other but we can't relate with their porpuses n situations so certain extreme personal pov should remain out of this forum according to me .
This should be a safe place ,not a toxic judgmental platform to make feel ppl even shorter or worst !
I'm by no mean the best or kind guy out there but there has to be a limit here and we all should STICK to the forum n the surgery .
Personal general opinions are welcome as might help in making a better decision but the ppl going around lately are probably not even 18 n are messing everything up because actuall ppl who wants this surgery are between 20-40 with normal lifes , normal looks,normal brain,normal or even good jobs n since this forum its anonymous we have no clue to who we are talking to n since we are sensitive to this topic we might take for good the opinion of a retard kid.
Some rules should be applied ,hopefully !!

I agree with everything you said; I was just saying that since you are the average height then you might not understand what it feels like for men that are well below the average. You "feel" short at 5'9 which is fine, that's your perspective now imagine being even shorter than that; could you handle it? You may not understand their perspectives and struggles they endure throughout their daily lives and they project it throughout this forum because maybe there is no one else to talk to in their life. I'm not promoting this behaviour, psychologists and professionals exist but I'm just giving you a reason as to why this is happening.

Also this is the "Off-Topic" section and the moderators are doing a great job at moving non-CLL related stuff here so I don't see what the problem is with some of their venting; as long as it doesn't go into black pill/incel territory then it's okay. Discussing about future scientific research that may be happening in the world and mocking people for doing that is not nice.
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Posted on Jan 12, 2022, 10:23 pm
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Quote from: Audous on January 12, 2022, 01:00:03 PMAlso this is the "Off-Topic" section and the moderators are doing a great job at moving non-CLL related stuff here so I don't see what the problem is with some of their venting; as long as it doesn't go into black pill/incel territory then it's okay. Discussing about future scientific research that may be happening in the world and mocking people for doing that is not nice.

Venting their frustrations is okay to a certain degree. But when you are talking about how there is no reason to live because you are too short (or rather have a devastating disease like leukemia) and discuss suicide as the only option, there is big concern here. There are other people who are in a similar situation and when they read posts like how suicide is the only option, it will have an influence. And what about inciting criminal behavior, like assaulting someone taller than you because you are frustrated of being short? That's not simply venting, that is inciting criminal and illegal behavior.

When a reader engages in suicide or criminal behavior because of the influencing posts on this website, the staff on this website can get into serious trouble and be held liable. I'm surprised the moderators and admins aren't doing more to filter this garbage out.

Future scientific research discussions are okay, but there is a distinction between reality and delusional. The pinned post says incel posts are to be banned. But what the hell is the purpose of a female android? It's designed for incels. It's not a direct topic on incels, but certainly indirectly related.
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