Quote from: Victim Of Wannabetaller on August 11, 2023, 01:22:29 PMHi bro, Can you give me the links of those treads? I want to post them in my signature, so that more people can see them.
My thread - Live Life Taller butchered my ankles:
http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=83717.0
Another LLT patient
http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=71235.0
Another LLT patient
http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=72989.msg237940#msg237940
That’s just for Live Life Taller, and just the most recent. There are several others for your clinic Wanna Be Taller if you search the forum.
Also if you can ever afford to travel to the US or Europe for osteomyelitis treatment, the best treatment is an internal nail coated with broad spectrum antibiotic cement. I believe it was pioneered by Dr. Janet Conway in Baltimore, a leading expert in osteomyelitis treatment.
Wannabetaller destroyed my life
Quote from: WannaBeTaller-Official on August 11, 2023, 01:32:22 PMWe have never escaped responsibility, we do not so. Our close contact with the patient that was stated here, our guidance and informing her show this.
The other details you mention are medical technical information. If it were my area of expertise, I would have an absolutely unbiased comment, whether against or for the company. However, we are limited to the information given by the doctor in such matters. That's why we recommend our patients go to impartial authorities if they suspect negligence.
They’re just like Live Life Taller, they lie and try to blame the patient. LLT tried to convince me that my ankles somehow butchered themselves. I offered to send medical records from Cedars Sinai in Los Angeles showing that premature removal of the syndesmotic screws caused subluxation requiring surgical correction, and that the right tibia was in valgus. They still refused to admit any wrongdoing.
Why would Wanna Be Taller be any different than Live Life Taller? Especially when there’s so many horror stories on this forum about Yunus and Yuksel from Wanna Be Taller?
The long history of corruption and incompetence in a developing country like Turkey filters down into every aspect of their society and culture, from poor medical training to the ability to lie as easily as you breathe.
They lie because everyone in Turkey lies.
About everything.
Businesses lie to cover up mistakes they make. Building developers lie about earthquake safety codes and apartments collapse during seismic events, killing thousands. It’s an orchestra of lies.
Every Turkish medical tourism company, whether it’s for limb lengthening, or laser eye color change, or facelift, or anything else, if they are given enough scrutiny, the horror stories begin to come out. With enough time, it happens. Every time.
Because the country is literally incapable of high quality medical training. They’re too incompetent. Maybe in 50 years they’ll get there. But not now. Not today.
Yuksel is apparently an associate professor of orthopedics and somehow completely butchered his patients. Think about that. A Professor. What does Wanna Be Taller say? “Oh we’re not working with him anymore”.
What makes you think the new surgeon will be any better? Or the one after that?
It doesn’t matter who they hire, the medical training is too incompetent. They’re all bad. And when mistakes happen they will lie, because compensating victims would put them out of business.
They lie because it’s what they know. It’s part of survival in a country of rats climbing over each other for a small piece of cheese. It’s a survival instinct.
Türkiye is the Land of Lies.
Quote from: Victim Of Wannabetaller on August 11, 2023, 01:17:46 PMOf course I have their consent, it is these victims who entrust me to expose you, because they have their own work to do, these pictures are provided by them voluntarily. Our purpose is very simple, that is, we hope that no new victims will appear, which is also the common wish of patients who have already been victimized.
Glad to see that you and I have at least one goal in common. My/our aim is to ensure that all patients do not experience any unjust treatment. You know best that I have worked very hard for your well-being and personally communicated with you throughout your process. I can empathize with you. So I personally see no reason to be angry with you. But as a part of the company, it is my responsibility to the company to fulfill your missed points professionally. I wish you quick healing.
Do you understand that if operating in the United States the management at Wanna Be Taller would be arrested and thrown in prison?
Literally, the doctors would lose their medical licenses, and be thrown in jail for running a criminal enterprise.
You can’t imagine it because you live in Turkey. You have no concept of how pathetic and sub standard your medical care is.
If you had a real sense of morality and conscience you would quit the company. These images of bone infection and other life ruining complications would actually shake your conscience enough to quit and find another job.
Quote from: WannaBeTaller-Official on August 11, 2023, 01:46:43 PMGlad to see that you and I have at least one goal in common. My/our aim is to ensure that all patients do not experience any unjust treatment. You know best that I have worked very hard for your well-being and personally communicated with you throughout your process. I can empathize with you. So I personally see no reason to be angry with you. But as a part of the company, it is my responsibility to the company to fulfill your missed points professionally. I wish you quick healing.
Stop gaslighting, your entire company is fkn horrific. How you gonna sit there in your little office infested with rats and bugs n try and act like you give a single goddamn about your patients? Your company would gladly butcher every western citizen who travels out there if you could without issue. Your money hungry, and the ONLY reason anyone opts to go to you is because they are so incredibly desperate and unhappy that they will take the gamble. You literally toy with peoples lifes for money. You will never be a professional, nor will you ever leave that rat of a country you live in either. Try and do a CLL surgery in a western country and see how fast your license gets torched and your on the street. “I see no reason to be angry with you” yea no you dumb sack of fetuses . Because YOUR group butchered him, not the other way around. Wtf do you have to be mad at him for? Exposing the truth of your godawful medical skills? Praying for another earthquake to smite your country from the heavens, hopefully this time it smokes the medical centres you do CLL at and your out of business for good.
Quote from: Stubborn Knucklehead on August 11, 2023, 05:28:42 AM
I feel sorry that a lot of people have had such negative experiences in Turkey. I can admit that most of the standards are not up to par with a country like the US, but at least in my case and from what I’ve seen from the other 20 patients here with me during this summer, everyone who closely followed instructions from the doctor and nursing staff had relatively good results. In my particular case, I don’t think it could’ve gone much better. Although, perhaps I got really lucky and I can admit that I am fortunate things have gone so well for me. While it’s hard to rule out Turkey all together, I do see where you are coming from. In an ideal world, they would be more transparent about these mishaps and improve their medical standards.
Yah - for most people Turkey is what we can afford, and we can all only speak anecdotally. If I could have this surgery in the US I would, but the fact is it wasn't an option for me. I don't think it's fair to group Yuksel with Yunus together at this point, because I think Yunus has done a good job on the vast majority of his patients. I saw limited complications while I was there as well. I have heard from older patients about problems with Yuksel before Yunus was the doctor, and I couldn't in good faith recommend Yuksel to anyone. This isn't to say there aren't issue and things that need to be fixed within the company, but I also don't think it's accurate to describe WBT as like a torture facility filled to the brim with infection ridden patients either.
Perhaps when there is a possibility of infection, they need better protocols to intervene instantly. I can't comment too much, since I was not a patient with an infection. If there is any colored / foul smelling discharge, a patient should be immediately placed on Amox Clav to prevent things from getting worse.
Another patient infected in the same batch and the attitude of wannabetaller.
The video shows the same group of patients in Wannabetaller, Türkiye (step by step) with me. She only did 4cm because of pain and severe pronation. W sold her to find Yunus to relax (at that time, other teams were free to relax). She wore plaster for more than 3 months in the hotel she rented to her and walked back home. Suddenly, there was redness, swelling, heat, pain, and internal infection at the broken bone! Later on, the lock nail was also infected with redness and swelling! I forgot to mention that she also suffered from common peroneal nerve injury, because she had returned and WBT was perfunctory and could only admit that she was unlucky! Next time, I will send you a message about how to draw pancakes for me before and after the double label dog WBT surgery, as well as the disgusting attitude of turning around and not recognizing me after causing chronic osteomyelitis, which is in stark contrast to the attitude of domestic doctors actively apologizing for mistakes.
When she was in Türkiye, W also swallowed her $750 for a residence permit, saying that the witness would not be refunded if there was a car accident on the way. In fact, W said that to every patient! Not only is W lax in charging her fees, but the quotation for taking her to the same hospital for hair transplant and dental beauty is twice as expensive as others themselves. Also, she just finished the surgery and asked the caregiver to help extend her legs, which also charged her a fee. Additionally, the physical therapy also overcharged her, causing her to pay 40000 yuan in advance for her 4-month accommodation and living expenses! There are still too many greedy and unscrupulous operations, and the issue of relative legs is not a big deal.
This girl is very nice. She got infected 2 months later than me, and I have been infected for almost 2 months. At that time, her Chinese doctor's advice made me realize that I was cheated by W and Yunus for 2 months! She showed my leg when I was in Türkiye to her Chinese doctor and said that I had better take the needle for treatment because of the long delay. The bacteria have spread to the whole medullary cavity, and the bacteria have formed a biofilm and can not be killed by antibiotics alone.
Then I went to W again in the hope of getting the correct treatment. I realized that when I first contacted WBT with redness, swelling, heat, and pain in my legs, I didn't take it seriously. It dragged me to the point of pus explosion. Osteomyelitis was not serious in W and Yunus' mouths, and chronic osteomyelitis told me not to worry. Just using antibiotics would cure it! W and Yunus, who were praised as gods by them, always said that my suppurative osteomyelitis was not serious and did not need debridement until the other two patients in the same group had the same infection as me. I totally distrusted W, and I hoped to change my doctor for treatment. I was really afraid of amputation and death from sepsis, but W continued to draw a big picture for me and said that he would find other experienced doctors in Türkiye to treat me, I bought a plane ticket to my home country while waiting (due to the severe situation of the domestic epidemic and various difficulties). I had no hope for W anymore, but I didn't expect W to turn around and refuse to recognize me!
They belong in prison, just like Erdogan.
Rats all of them 🐀
Quote from: Ahri on August 11, 2023, 06:41:01 PMThis isn't to say there aren't issue and things that need to be fixed within the company, but I also don't think it's accurate to describe WBT as like a torture facility filled to the brim with infection ridden patients either.
I partially agree with your thoughts. It's unlikely that all patients at WBT suffer from severe complications like osteomyelitis.
I believe that probably more than half of their surgeries are successful, but the exact numbers are unknown since WBT does not tell the truth.
However, it seems undeniable that the probability of complications is higher compared to countries like the US.
Patients undergoing LL surgery at WBT or LLT should be aware that they are gambling with their legs.
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