Quote from: Maison on August 12, 2023, 02:29:22 AMI partially agree with your thoughts. It's unlikely that all patients at WBT suffer from severe complications like osteomyelitis.
I believe that probably more than half of their surgeries are successful, but the exact numbers are unknown since WBT does not tell the truth.
However, it seems undeniable that the probability of complications is higher compared to countries like the US.
Patients undergoing LL surgery at WBT or LLT should be aware that they are gambling with their legs.
Currently, as far as I know, we have a total of 24 patients staying at the hotel and outside on an active process. It was found that one of our patients who used Precise nail was less elongated than the other. We are trying to understand what the reasons for this are. It could be related to the controller settings or the nail itself. We are investigating possible reasons. In one of our patients, preventive treatment was started because the onset of infection was observed. Except for these two patients who were reported to me or observed from the groups, all of our patients are in good condition. I think this is a very good ratio. These rates will be confirmed by our patients who stayed with us and participated in the recent forum discussions here.
Wannabetaller destroyed my life
Quote from: Victim Of Wannabetaller on August 14, 2023, 09:55:20 AMA full version of the counterattack against Turkey's WannaBetTaller's lie smearing my post.
Even if I stayed in WBT's shabby hotel for an extended period, even if I was so close to them in Turkey, even if the cause of my infection had nothing to do with the needle track and trauma, even if I contacted WBT at the first time when my leg was swollen and had a fever, everyone knew it, but they still made it chronic, and then learned WBT's turning face, refusing to recognize the arrogance and arrogance, attacking, smearing, stimulating and provoking patients who were experiencing pain. If I continue to listen to the advice of these medical illiterates, my outcome will be even worse.
They boast that they are the world's first, the best service, and the most experienced. Their business approach is to be good at deception and threats! Double labeled dog looks ugly!
I have read the screenshots. I wish you would have included these screenshots of our correspondence with you from your Wechat group. This would at least have been useful to show that we have made some warnings for your health. As I understand it, either the doctor or a company staff - possibly your consultant - tells you not to worry in the correspondence between 8-13 July. According to the correspondence in another screenshot, you are diagnosed with osteomyelitis on 20.07.2022. So a week after you are told not to worry. Then, on 01.09.2022, a diagnosis of chronic osteomyelitis was made. In this case, it seems the doctor determined a treatment protocol according to the current symptoms he observes. At this stage, the company cannot express an opinion on whether the diagnosis or treatment protocol determined by the doctor is appropriate, cannot argue with the doctor, and argue that this treatment is correct, not that treatment. In fact, in the protocol signed between the intermediary company and the doctor, there is even a clause that the doctor determines the medical treatment to be applied and the doctor is responsible for the results of this treatment. I understand the expectations of the patients from the intermediary company in this regard, but according to the signed protocol, it is not legally possible for us to convince a doctor about a medical issue other than the treatment he deems appropriate. The organization that will say what a doctor did wrong can still be a medical authority, and the courts employ these organizations/doctors as experts. In that case, it would be great if you could present your evidence to a court.
I also see your correspondence, possibly with one of the consultants, on 31.03.2021. Here you are told about 6-7, 7-8 cm. It was also mentioned that these rates may change according to the time you exercise before the surgery and the structure of your body. As a matter of fact, it was seen that your body could no longer tolerate it when you reached 6.5-7 cm throughout your process, and you were insistently told to stop.
As I mentioned before, I do not know the effect of your negligence, which I witnessed during the process, on the problems you are experiencing. Maybe it had no effect and the truth is in your point of view. But this has to be said by a medical professional, not me.
(By the way, please do not deviate from the focus while discussing your problem and really focus on your victimization. While defending yourself, you do not need to make manipulations such as that "the company is deceiving the patients in financial matters, that Xinjiangian staff treats Chinese patients badly. The company's approach depends on deception and threats. '' and etc. Manipulation and false information should not be a way to defend the things we believe are true.)
I'm a patient of WBT, I want to say that this company's ability to deal with infection is really poor, recently we had a patient with staph infection and his pus sprayed all over the treatment room and the company made excuses for not cleaning and then all the other patients All require physical therapy in their own room. It's funny that they told the us they had already cleaned it. Until they didn't see anyone at all the company actually sent someone to clean it. The company doesn't care about the patient either and can only call an ambulance and go to the hospital
by himself...
Afa limb lengthening cleans the pin sites every second day, and gives antibiotics if they see the slightest sign of an effection. That is how you should handle it... But thanks for sharing your horrible experiences, that is what have kept me from going from them.
Quote from: WannaBeTaller-Official on August 11, 2023, 01:32:22 PMWe have never escaped responsibility, we do not so. Our close contact with the patient that was stated here, our guidance and informing her show this.
The other details you mention are medical technical information. If it were my area of expertise, I would have an absolutely unbiased comment, whether against or for the company. However, we are limited to the information given by the doctor in such matters. That's why we recommend our patients go to impartial authorities if they suspect negligence.
Yeah, no. Your team of money hungry sociopaths need to be in jail.
And if you're still employed with them, I recommend you look deep into how you want your future to look like. Are you content working for an industry in Turkey that has crippled so many people? How do you sleep at night?
I was also fked up by one of the doctors you used to employ, Dr Yuksel.
STAY AWAY FROM TURKEY !!!!!!
Quote from: DanishViking on August 14, 2023, 04:21:10 PMAfa limb lengthening cleans the pin sites every second day, and gives antibiotics if they see the slightest sign of an effection. That is how you should handle it... But thanks for sharing your horrible experiences, that is what have kept me from going from them.
Stop shilling AFA man. You haven't even gone to them. Everything looks great when viewing these $hithole Turkish clinics from the outside.
Quote from: shortisnotfun on August 14, 2023, 04:48:05 PM
Yeah, no. Your team of money hungry sociopaths need to be in jail.
And if you're still employed with them, I recommend you look deep into how you want your future to look like. Are you content working for an industry in Turkey that has crippled so many people? How do you sleep at night?
I was also fked up by one of the doctors you used to employ, Dr Yuksel.
STAY AWAY FROM TURKEY !!!!!!
Stop shilling AFA man. You haven't even gone to them. Everything looks great when viewing these $hithole Turkish clinics from the outside.
I don't know when you had the surgery. But I have been with this company since 20.10.2021. The framework of my task is to ensure that patients and staff continue the process in accordance with the standards. When we saw that the staff did not meet the standards, we did not hesitate to cut ties with them, including the doctors. As for the patients, we have been trying as much as we could to motivate and encourage them to what was optimal for their health. Undoubtedly, for some of those who set out to realize their dreams, it is both annoying and sad that this dream turns into a nightmare. Who can deny that? I wish all bad/negative possibilities could be eliminated, but it is necessary to accept that this is not possible due to its nature and there is always a risk. The best thing we could do in this situation was a health insurance agreement that would support the parties for risks that could not be zeroed. Since 2022 patients can apply for a health insurance policy for possible complications/risks if they wish.
Earning is important to the survival of any company, as you will admit, but I do not agree with your thinking that we are breaking all principles on it. Of course, I respect your opinion, but I think the company has a reasonable pricing policy compared to its competitors. As I mentioned before, simple market research will show this.
I wish you the best.
Quote from: qwerdfb on August 14, 2023, 04:09:26 PMI'm a patient of WBT, I want to say that this company's ability to deal with infection is really poor, recently we had a patient with staph infection and his pus sprayed all over the treatment room and the company made excuses for not cleaning and then all the other patients All require physical therapy in their own room. It's funny that they told the us they had already cleaned it. Until they didn't see anyone at all the company actually sent someone to clean it. The company doesn't care about the patient either and can only call an ambulance and go to the hospital
by himself...
I think the patient you mentioned is the patient I mentioned in one of the comments above. As far as I could observe, at around 11:00 pm, in his group this patient complained about the discharge and pain in his leg. The doctor's recommendations were conveyed to him, but at around 01:00 am at night, he requested an ambulance as his complaints increased and I think a few of our patients helped him. Later, one of our patient representatives accompanied him and stayed with him in the hospital until he felt better. Through this patient consultant of ours, I also had a video call with the patient at around 03:45 personally. Additionally last night, I requested one of our staff members to visit him and ask about his health and condition, and then this staff member visited our patient. Undoubtedly it could have been better, but it took some time for us to take the initiative as the incident took place later in the night.
We do not yet know the type of infection in our patient and we are waiting for the results of the culture tests. As far as I know, the room has been cleaned. Even some photos of the cleaned room were sent to the staff group. I have seen the correspondence of some of our patients about the risk of infection in the physical therapy room and that they want to receive physical therapy in their own room, but already at that stage, the necessary initiative for cleaning was taken and the cleaning was completed. I don't think the company likes danger enough to cause a disregard for cleanliness. After all, a case of infection is a problem not only for the patient but also for the company. As you said, if this cleaning is delayed or neglected, we will promptly investigate it and ensure that it does not happen again. We listen carefully to constructive criticism and try to take measures as soon as possible.
Therefore, if you observe any problems, do not hesitate to post them from your group or in private.
Quote from: WannaBeTaller-Official on August 15, 2023, 07:21:03 AMI think the patient you mentioned is the patient I mentioned in one of the comments above. As far as I could observe, at around 11:00 pm, in his group this patient complained about the discharge and pain in his leg. The doctor's recommendations were conveyed to him, but at around 01:00 am at night, he requested an ambulance as his complaints increased and I think a few of our patients helped him. Later, one of our patient representatives accompanied him and stayed with him in the hospital until he felt better. Through this patient consultant of ours, I also had a video call with the patient at around 03:45 personally. Additionally last night, I requested one of our staff members to visit him and ask about his health and condition, and then this staff member visited our patient. Undoubtedly it could have been better, but it took some time for us to take the initiative as the incident took place later in the night.
We do not yet know the type of infection in our patient and we are waiting for the results of the culture tests. As far as I know, the room has been cleaned. Even some photos of the cleaned room were sent to the staff group. I have seen the correspondence of some of our patients about the risk of infection in the physical therapy room and that they want to receive physical therapy in their own room, but already at that stage, the necessary initiative for cleaning was taken and the cleaning was completed. I don't think the company likes danger enough to cause a disregard for cleanliness. After all, a case of infection is a problem not only for the patient but also for the company. As you said, if this cleaning is delayed or neglected, we will promptly investigate it and ensure that it does not happen again. We listen carefully to constructive criticism and try to take measures as soon as possible.
Therefore, if you observe any problems, do not hesitate to post them from your group or in private.
If he don't publicly release it, your processing speed will always be as slow as a snail. Thank you for publicly disclosing the dirty management of WBT. Don't let more victims appear.
WBT harmed me, blocked me, smeared me! In Türkiye, after the black intermediary WBT caused me to become chronic osteomyelitis, it ignored me, even blocked me, so that I could not contact them, and then they whitewash their company and smearing me.
When the domestic patients have problems, the patients have been complaining about the doctors. The response attitude of the domestic doctors is quite different from the rogue attitude of Wannabetaller in Türkiye. At least the domestic doctors will not shirk, attack, smear and stimulate the patients, but the WBT team set up by Türkiye's black hearted tour guides is a ugly attitude, which has turned me into a chronic osteomyelitis
They have a arrogant face:
"We are not responsible. We are not wrong. It is your own fault"
"Treating you will be unfair to other patients who treat themselves at their own expense! (Other patients are not in Türkiye and know that you are scoundrels, who think they are unlucky. Can you wait until you win the fight with the scoundrel to treat your legs?)"
"We have done everything we need to do! We have done a great job! If you are not satisfied, you can sue"
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