Yes a tired old topic I know but it's also an illusive one. I've yet to find a definitive answer on the "best" height, probably because there is no such thing. However I think most will agree that it is generally beneficial for men to be "tall", the question is: how tall?
A lot of people draw a line at some nice even number like 6' or 180CM and proclaim that everyone on the upper side has "made it". Others claim that height is less important the taller you get. I think that's true although I don't think it is socially detrimental to be very tall -but surely the benefits must stop or even out after at some point.
That point is subjective and circumstantial. I personally peg it at roughly 195 cm or 6'4 -6'5 but I'm a bit biased toward taller heights as I am constantly surrounded by tall people. What do you guys think?
Have to disagree with 188CM being impressive my dad is almost that tall and I just don't see his height being very impressive a lot of young people are taller than him.
Also think you guys underestimate how much women value tall men I have never heard a girl refer to someone as too tall, they never mention a maximum height. To each their own of course but I'm sure a 193 guy has an intrinic (albeit small) advantage over his 188cm mate with no real disadvantages.
Quote from: endomorphisme on October 07, 2014, 05:48:12 PMwhy do you want to dominate people uppland, that's ridiculous, you height neurosis has gone so bad
you want to take you revenge on life or what?
I'm 182 cm and even if i add 3 cm to my height, i would feel totally fine, and 185 cm is not an imposing height, but i don't give a s**t, it's good enough to feel tall around women, and solid with your peers
Let's just say I'm a perfectionist and the fact that I can hardly strive for a perfect height annoys me. You are right that 185 cm is "good enough" even where I live that would be considered a respectable if normal height but I was never satisfied with "decent". I guess people have different expectations out of life.
Quote from: endomorphisme on October 07, 2014, 08:18:30 PM he could be german, belgian , in those countries the average height is about 180 cm , but he is going to say it's 190 cm.
It's not really relevant where he is from. If he doesn't want people to know we should let it be.
I sometimes imagine height as sort of a catalyst. Of course a fit, intelligent, kind and handsome man at 180 cm is going to to be more impressive and noteworthy than a 190 cm average Joe (or Sven) but at a taller height those traits are amplified and the overall effect is much more impressive.
Unfortunately height is impossible to improve with just hard work and that is exactly what makes it so valuable.
Quote from: Wannabegiant on October 07, 2014, 08:55:01 PMTo be fair, just because a person is 185+ does not mean he can have higher expectations on life and expect to be more likely to reach them. There are countless 5'10-6'0 guys who live life without any limitations, there is pretty much nothing in life that majority of the taller people can achieve that these "average" height people cannot.
Fair enough but do you agree that people above the mean height recieve some major advantages while suffering negliagable if any disadvantages?
If you do would you also say that it is normal for some (ambitious) people to want that extra height in order to recieve those benefits that can't be accessed in any other way?
@Wannabegiant
You're right again but like I said before what makes height so valuable is that you cannot work to improve it. Certainly there are othe ways to be respected and attractive but as you said you have to work harder, always be a little better.
Doesn't it bother you that you need to "make up" for how tall you are?
It's true that the fact that taller men always has an advantage over me really takes a bite out of my motivation to improve myself. Even if I become an objectively more impressive person overall that injustice is always in play like a thorn in the side. Yes the process may build my charater, yes I've probably got height neurosis and yes most people think this bothering me so much is ridiculous.
Still we all recognize that sometimes we can be happier only by changing ourselves otherwise we wouldn't be on this board but this isn't an easy fix for me I've been aware of LL for a long time and I thought it was completely out of the question for any sane person regardless of how short he was.
In the end it doesn't matter much why we do this surgery as long as we're sure it's for the best. Without turning this thread to a argument over eachothers psychology let's get back on track, there is no right answer as I said in the OP but I still think that the 190 - 195 range is ideal at least for me.
Do you feel average at 178? Because I have to say I don't or at least not properly so. It's not a bad height though I haven't been discriminated towards in any way that I've noticed and plenty of girls are still interested in me even taller ones. I suppose it is neutral being this tall.
I've been attentive of others recently and I must say that I really am on the shorter side. Sure it's not by much and obviously there are a lot of even shorter people but most men below maybe 60 years old are definetly taller than me. In my town it seems like most men are perhaps 180 -185CM.
Quote from: endomorphisme on October 07, 2014, 10:34:00 PM185 cm is good enough for a man, wanting to be 195 cm is silly.
I'm studying engineering in France, when i was 18 ans years old i used to think the average height was 185 cm for my young peers, but i only focused my mind on the taller guys.
Then i started to count people taller and shorter than me in my school (i'm 23 now), and i just realized that i was wrong.
There are no official data in France, but from objective observations, without focusing on the tall guys, the average height seems to be around 179 cm for young caucasian men.
I want to be 185 cm just to be in the 80 th percentile, but considering my starting height, i could be 192 cm but since only 20 % is 185 cm or taller, it's unecessary to be 190 cm+.
Moreover not every tall guys are handsome, successful or got into a very good university, it may concern 1-3 % of every men, which means the perfect man virtually doesn't exist.
192 cm certainly seems like perfection to me. You're also right in that most overestimate the height of others I used to think the average of 181 cm was lowballing it but the more I think about it the more reasonable it seems. Still I'd say most young men are slightly taller than that.
-Love France been interested in living there for a while since I was a kid.
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