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Posted on Nov 15, 2013, 5:00 pm
#1
This issue is the only thing that stops me from actually doing LL in the future. I am sure that I actually want to do it but being unable to walk is actually a big thing. How do you believe it happens during this surgery? Is a certain type of vein cut?
Please explain if you know anything about this topic, thank you
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Posted on Nov 15, 2013, 5:56 pm
#2
Yeah, not being able to walk is a VERY big thing.  Not being able to see is even worse, yet people still get LASIK.  Dying in a plane crash is even worse than those two, yet people still get on airplanes and fly.  The worst case scenario of anything is always going to be horrible.  Just know that the worst case is very rare.

When I was in Beijing I heard that two people had been crippled by Dr. Xia back in the 1980s.  But he's had thousands of successful cases in his long career.  The clinic's website says 1500 cases but that number hasn't been updated since I went there in 2007.  And it was probably put up long before then.  Probably 2500-3000 cases as of 2013 is more accurate.  Still just two cripples.

I have no specific knowledge of the cases where people have been crippled by LL, but my guess is it would have something to do with tendon/ligament damage, or severe nerve damage.  If a major artery/vein is cut then you'll die, so that's not what causes crippling.
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Posted on Nov 15, 2013, 7:44 pm
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I'm confused how someone as ignorant as you has acquired enough wealth to go with Guichet?


"is a certain type of vein cut?"

Are you for real? I don't want to come across as hostile but you have got to be taking the piss.

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Posted on Nov 15, 2013, 8:50 pm
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Quote from: Medium Drink Of Water on November 15, 2013, 05:56:54 PM
Yeah, not being able to walk is a VERY big thing.  Not being able to see is even worse, yet people still get LASIK.  Dying in a plane crash is even worse than those two, yet people still get on airplanes and fly.  The worst case scenario of anything is always going to be horrible.  Just know that the worst case is very rare.

When I was in Beijing I heard that two people had been crippled by Dr. Xia back in the 1980s.  But he's had thousands of successful cases in his long career.  The clinic's website says 1500 cases but that number hasn't been updated since I went there in 2007.  And it was probably put up long before then.  Probably 2500-3000 cases as of 2013 is more accurate.  Still just two cripples.

I have no specific knowledge of the cases where people have been crippled by LL, but my guess is it would have something to do with tendon/ligament damage, or severe nerve damage.  If a major artery/vein is cut then you'll die, so that's not what causes crippling.

That made me feel better, and you are right. A woman stayed paralysed in my country because she did the height surgery that's why I got concerned a bit.

Quote from: Russianblues on November 15, 2013, 07:44:44 PM
I'm confused how someone as ignorant as you has acquired enough wealth to go with Guichet?


"is a certain type of vein cut?"

Are you for real? I don't want to come across as hostile but you have got to be taking the piss.



Ignorant? For me to be able to go to Guichet means I am smart enough to have succeeded and have a good job. And I am a human being, of course I can be worried of being paralysed, who wants not to be able to walk again? This might seem a stupid question but it is a serious topic.
I'm confused how someone as ignorant as you has acquired enough wealth to go with Guichet?


"is a certain type of vein cut?"

Are you for real? I don't want to come across as hostile but you have got to be taking the piss.



Ignorant? For me to be able to go to Guichet means I am smart enough to have succeeded and have a good job. And I am a human being, of course I can be worried of being paralysed, who wants not to be able to walk again? This might seem a stupid question but it is a serious topic.
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Posted on Nov 15, 2013, 9:28 pm
#5
That's what I mean. Someone who has clearly achieved some success and managed to save a decent amount lacks common knowledge found in most 10 year olds. I hope this misunderstanding is a function of your poor English rather than benightedness.
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Posted on Nov 16, 2013, 4:06 am
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You have to do your reading about LL.

Every surgery is a risk and you CAN die, but the risk is very low.

If you are a healthy person you will do alright with Guichet.
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Posted on Nov 16, 2013, 11:31 am
#7
Will you have a consultation with Dr. G anytime soon, sadboy?
I think a consultation is something you will have to do regardless of what any of us say.
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Posted on Nov 16, 2013, 11:34 am
#8
RussianBlues, please don't be rude pal. He is obviously not a troll and seems quite serious about LL.
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Posted on Nov 16, 2013, 11:58 am
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If he was serious about LL he would go and do his due diligence rather than just make a different thread for everyone of his random thoughts regarding the procedure.
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Posted on Nov 16, 2013, 12:23 pm
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I reckon I knew the functions of veins when I was a pre-pub. I can remember my friends and I discussing the blue/purple lines in our arms and we knew from either school, or whatever, that they were used to pump blood and didn't really have a major role in our bodies, least not one vein anyway. We also knew that veins weren't as important as arteries. Never for one second did we believe that damaging a vein would lead to paralysis.

You clearly have a lot to learn about human biology and you could've found this out all by yourself Googling some words.
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