about the whole younger kids are taller: there were these kids that came into my college just for a tour and they were grade 11 and 12s, but they weren't that much taller and most seemed to be around average. quite a few were short too.
Quote from: Auron on April 28, 2017, 10:13:47 PMYou know what's delicious? knowing your life sucks to the point that you want to suicide yourself. Do it already, you're just garbage anyways.
lmao
Quote from: onemorefoot on April 28, 2017, 10:13:58 PMYou should be at least 6', just God( if exists), know what the hell happened, but you still have ll, maybe HGH is correlated with that injustice, dont know.
Ye but would be cool to be 5'11 without having my bones snapped in half
Quote from: google42 on April 28, 2017, 10:14:27 PMabout the whole younger kids are taller: there were these kids that came into my college just for a tour and they were grade 11 and 12s, but they weren't that much taller and most seemed to be around average. quite a few were short too.
Agreed, height here at this point is pretty stable too
Quote from: Auron on April 28, 2017, 10:13:47 PMYou know what's delicious? knowing your life sucks to the point that you want to suicide yourself. Do it already, you're just garbage anyways.
Pretty messed up comment to be honest. Honestly, mods, this should be removed, as far as I know harassing other users like this is not allowed here?
Quote from: IwannaBeTaller on April 28, 2017, 10:33:36 PMPretty messed up comment to be honest. Honestly, mods, this should be removed, as far as I know harassing other users like this is not allowed here?
Usually, in a well mod'ed forum, my comments would be deleted. But this forum is mod'ed like .
To clarify to people, the 20%-80% rule is based on averages, not individuals. Northern European white people tend to have high heritability (80% on average) whereas people in West Africa might have closer to 65% heritability.
If the average height in a country is 180 cm, and a man is 185 cm, and the average heritability is 80%, then 80% of that difference (4 cm) can be explained by genetics and 20% (1 cm) by nutrition.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-much-of-human-height/
This is assuming nutrition and heritability within the normal range and obviously only works for averages or for very rough estimates on individuals. Obviously individual cases are more complicated.
Anorexia if untreated, or malnutrition for example would stunt your growth a lot more, perhaps 4-6 inches. But malnutrition is NOT caused by skipping meals or not eating your greens. People in the western world are very unlikely to grow up malnourished, unless they live in extreme poverty, so I wouldn't worry about that.
Quote from: Jack1066 on April 28, 2017, 10:47:37 PMTo clarify to people, the 20%-80% rule is based on averages, not individuals. Northern European white people tend to have high heritability (80% on average) whereas people in West Africa might have closer to 65% heritability.
If the average height in a country is 180 cm, and a man is 185 cm, and the average heritability is 80%, then 80% of that difference (4 cm) can be explained by genetics and 20% (1 cm) by nutrition.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-much-of-human-height/
This is assuming nutrition and heritability within the normal range and obviously only works for averages or for very rough estimates on individuals. Obviously individual cases are more complicated.
Anorexia if untreated, or malnutrition for example would stunt your growth a lot more, perhaps 4-6 inches. But malnutrition is NOT caused by skipping meals or not eating your greens. People in the western world are very unlikely to grow up malnourished, unless they live in extreme poverty, so I wouldn't worry about that.
this makes sense. thanks for clarifying.
No one can really pin point the exact reason people reach certain heights
A lot of it can be luck plain and simple
The younger generation are definitely taller for reasons Ive said before, these include more hormone laden food, less stress than older generations, it is for example far easier to pass exams nowadays due to the fact they are undoubtedly easier and access to the internet makes research learning a lot lot easier, in general as well their parents spoil them far more and the vast majority get what they want when they want, this leads to a relaxed mood and a happy existence which in turn keeps growth hormone balanced.
Having excessively low bodyfat can stunt growth potentially as can excessive strenuous exercise, the exercise of don't excessively can put the body under huge strain and what little food or energy they are eating is going towards tepairing exhausted sore bodies instead of growing. Poor sleep is also likely a factor as hgh peaks when you sleep.
Endocrinologists cannot accurately predict a persons height, I remember numerous peiople at school who were told by doctors they'd end up this or that because of certain factors and I can't recall a single case where the doctor was right.
Hgh if taken early enough and in enough amounts during growth years can help people grow taller, the sad reality is because of the cost of it it is usually discouraged, when it is administered it is done so in amounts which typically make little or no difference as it's neither frequent or high enough. I wish to fk I had taken it when younger, I'm certain I'd have been 2.5-4" taller. I was a very very poor sleeper when younger I'm convinced that had something to do with my adult height. I also possibly burnt way way too much energy exercising
Even smoking 10 cigarettes a day during growing years is only shown to stunt growth by an inch, I imagine doing a lot of exercise and sleeping very little isn't going to hurt you too much.
The people with really stunted growth are the kids in India eating one bowl of lentils and rice a day all their lives and having really bad illnesses from insanitary conditions.
There's a reason that height began to plateau all over the western world nearly 50 years ago according to all statistics.
I do not believe younger people are significantly taller. I do notice that middle and upper class people are.
Quote from: Bigpoppapump on April 29, 2017, 12:06:23 AMNo one can really pin point the exact reason people reach certain heights
A lot of it can be luck plain and simple
The younger generation are definitely taller for reasons Ive said before, these include more hormone laden food, less stress than older generations, it is for example far easier to pass exams nowadays due to the fact they are undoubtedly easier and access to the internet makes research learning a lot lot easier, in general as well their parents spoil them far more and the vast majority get what they want when they want, this leads to a relaxed mood and a happy existence which in turn keeps growth hormone balanced.
Having excessively low bodyfat can stunt growth potentially as can excessive strenuous exercise, the exercise of don't excessively can put the body under huge strain and what little food or energy they are eating is going towards tepairing exhausted sore bodies instead of growing. Poor sleep is also likely a factor as hgh peaks when you sleep.
Endocrinologists cannot accurately predict a persons height, I remember numerous peiople at school who were told by doctors they'd end up this or that because of certain factors and I can't recall a single case where the doctor was right.
Hgh if taken early enough and in enough amounts during growth years can help people grow taller, the sad reality is because of the cost of it it is usually discouraged, when it is administered it is done so in amounts which typically make little or no difference as it's neither frequent or high enough. I wish to fk I had taken it when younger, I'm certain I'd have been 2.5-4" taller. I was a very very poor sleeper when younger I'm convinced that had something to do with my adult height. I also possibly burnt way way too much energy exercising
From bad sleeping and a lot of working out maybe you lost 1 inch and it is too much.
4 inches is way out of reality.
And Jack has complete right.
Don't try to justify your lack of height. It wasn't your fault, you are a healthy person with less than average height like me too and amost all of the members here.
It is ridiculous to believe that you stunted your growth because you didn't eat only protein and vegetables or because you didn't sleep 9 hours per day.
Almost none teenager do these things and still many end up more than average height.
So people should accept that not all of us were born to be tall physically and it is not our fault. We are completely healthy and no less masculine compared to a 6.2 ft guy but we are simply not tall enough and that's where LL comes to lose our problems.
Yes we were born a little unlucky but nothing more. And at 99% of cases we couldn't have done anything physically to avoid being short.
What is the point of this thread? Height is 99% genetic. Unless you were severely malnourished, you were born to be that height and that's what it's gonna be. It doesn't matter if your dad is tall and your mom is short or so on and so forth. Obviously having taller parents increases the chance of you being taller, but it doesn't guarantee you will even be close to their height. Height is complicated and geneticists still can't pinpoint exactly what height an individual will be. I just don't see the point in dwelling on things like these "I didn't get enough sleep, I didn't eat enough, I smoked" Chances are those didn't do much to effect your height at all. Genes literally dictate everything about us.
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