Why do betz/G-nail patients take so long to walk properly compared to stryde ?

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I have been going through the diaries of both betz/G-nail and stryde patients recently

One thing I have noticed is that the latter(My evolution , programmerdude,movie) were able to start walking normally(barring running,jumping,or sports) much faster than betz patients (leonazul99 , taller90 , stand taller) and G-nail (Ozboy)

why is this so , since betz bone/G-nail claims to be weight bearing as well ?

I know the betz boys/G-nail guy lengthened > 8cm , so will require a longer consolidation, but they weren't able to walk properly even at 8cm

By walking properly , I mean walking without crutches for extended periods of time

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Quote from: RealLostSoul on January 04, 2023, 11:11:13 PMYou won‘t walk extended periods of time normally with a broken femur bone. If this would be the case than nonunion wouldn‘t even really matter. Just bias in reporting obviously. Walking recovery is the same with any weightbearing nail and of course if you overlengthen it then you need much much longer than if you quit early.

but if you go through my evolution's diary , in the videos he posted , he was walking without crutches from post op day 5

whereas stand taller couldn't walk outside his home without crutches at 8cms,and still needed them almost 6 months after he stopped lengthening

body builder mentioned that clicking nails are more traumatic than magnetic ones , maybe that's the reason ?

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Quote from: lessthanavg8300 on January 05, 2023, 12:16:49 AMI dont know why one would be more traumatic than the other.  Betzbone is def more of a pain in the ass (clicking) but they both lengthen your legs at the same rate.

that's what I think as well , but the diaries beg to differ
I was a die hard stryde supporter , till I found out betzbone could go upto 12cms , so leaning towards betz rn
but the longer time of using crutches is bugging me

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Quote from: LIVELIFETHEWAYIWANT on January 05, 2023, 01:00:22 PMNO 1 reason is weight bearing nails have slower bone regeneration

this is completely opposite to what we know so far that weight bearing nails hasten recovery

so the consensus is that betz/g-nail pts can also start walking without crutches for short distances and periods of time very soon after suegery BUT don't do so to avoid injury ( due to the doctor's recommendation ?)

thanks guys

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Quote from: RealLostSoul on January 05, 2023, 01:42:49 PMAbout the question, I will say this, imagine slipping and falling over (very easily possible in the beginning if you aren’t cautious) and landing on a bad spot. Can knock the screws out of it’s place needing another surgery. Who wants that? After 2 months the screws will be fused with your bone (you see on xray that callous builds up around the screws and while your bone still isn’t fused because you lengthen it, the screw points are) so by then that risk is lower and also you have more a lot more stability by then.

yeah that's true , but won't the bone heal faster the sooner we start putting weight on it ?
stryde pts can recover faster cuz they start walking without crutches sooner than betz/g-nail pts , right ?

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Quote from: RealLostSoul on January 08, 2023, 03:20:27 PM where people did different lengths

I know that those who did longer will take more time to recover
but if you compare all of them at 8cm , the stryde pts were better off according to their diaries(or so I thought then)

Now I know that betz and G-nail pts could also walk without crutches a few days after surgery

I know stryde's not coming back , but its replacement will (another WB magnetic nail)
paley and other docs aren't gonna sit back and keep losing prospective patients

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Quote from: poclecrt on January 10, 2023, 05:19:47 PMit helps healing of the callus, not actual mechanical recovery of the soft tissues like what reallostsoul is trying to explain

When I had mentioned faster recovery , I was exclusively talking about speed of bone consolidation

consolidation - how fast the bone heals and returns to its normal load bearing ability
recovery - consolidation + soft tissues going back to normal

the real disasters from LL happen due to poor/inadequate bone consolidation leading to fractures or non unions
the healing of bone is also a positive reinforcement cycle
ability to bear weight - faster bone healing - stronger bone - ability to bear more weight - even more faster consolidation and so on

the more you delay consolidation , the higher the chances of fractures/non union

I was under the wrong impression that stryde patients were able to start walking sooner , for longer distances and for more time (aka being able to put more weight on their bones as fast as possible) compared to betz/G-nail pts , resulting in quicker and safer consolidation

But after perusing through the comments under this thread , I know now that even Betz/G-nail pts can do the same , so time to consolidation will be same for both if same amount is lengthened

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Quote from: overandover on January 11, 2023, 08:56:36 AMPrecice has faster consolidation then all stainless steel nails though.

why did programdude snap his femur in half then ?
He was a precice 2.2 patient
Also , only stryde was stainless steel , betzbone/G-nail are cobalt chrome

I read your diary , you are just one of those people who have very quick bone regrowth,leading to preconsolidation

going by pure logic , WB nails will always lead to faster consolidation than NWB nails , as per wolff's law

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