Yellowspike - Dr. Guichet, Internal Femurs, Late 2014

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Quote from: NewHeights on March 27, 2015, 09:37:49 PMBelow the discrete numerical average is not short. Average should be considered a range, not a discrete number. Average in the US is probably 5' 8" to 5' 11" so you are not short.

I am in the same boat as you with the glucosamine and inversion. 1 CM more nighttime height is HUGE (keeping my fingers crossed this summer)

Well, that's why I've been so obsessive over 5'8" or not. That seems to be the cutoff. But regardless of what my actual height down to the millimeter is, I feel like I can at least comfortably say "I'm 5'8". Hell, I used to sometimes get away with saying I was 5'7" when I was a little over 5'5" lol. But your observation is exactly why I'm so fixated on this number, but I'm trying not to be. If there was a legit one way to increase night height by 1CM, I'd get on that right away just to get more safely into the range I want and not be borderline.

If my duckass even gives me 3-5mm, that will get me exactly where I wanted to be. Here's to hoping!

And by the way, you aren't short, new heights

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me too want an exact number , for me in a man to be below 172cm is just inaceptable.

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Due to bone compression during consolidation and the natural curvature of your bone, 7cm of lengthening doesn't equate to 7cm in solid height gain. To be sure of 7cm of height gain, you need at least 7.5cm of lengthening.

I had 8.2cm going into the operating table. The doc cut it off to 8cm. My starting height was 169.5. Theoretically, I should get 177.5cm (169.5+8cm). However, while my morning now is only 177cm, at night I'm 176cm. Don't feel too bad. Sweden's case is worst... along with some other guys which I will not mention...lol

Well, I'm all about achieving goals. My favourite author is Machiavelli, where the ends justifies the means.

Your biggest enemy now is pain. The distance you have between yourself and your goal is 1cm (I don't know how much exactly). Just remember that pain is temporary and height is permanent. What you do now will affects the rest of your life. You can always be generous with the pain meds. Pain is just a state of mind but height is real.

If you must, bite on to a stick while making that click. Think about all the thoughts where height has hold you back in life.... about the bitch who rejected you for whatever reason. Whatever you do, the moment is now. If you fail to reach that height gain and have your bone consolidate, then you will have to accept either not reaching your height goal or have to consider an additional LL down the road.

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Quote from: Smallguy on March 27, 2015, 09:56:23 PMDue to bone compression during consolidation and the natural curvature of your bone, 7cm of lengthening doesn't equate to 7cm in solid height gain. To be sure of 7cm of height gain, you need at least 7.5cm of lengthening.

I had 8.2cm going into the operating table. The doc cut it off to 8cm. My starting height was 169.5. Theoretically, I should get 177.5cm (169.5+8cm). However, while my morning now is only 177cm, at night I'm 176cm. Don't feel too bad. Sweden's case is worst... along with some other guys which I will not mention...lol

Well, I'm all about achieving goals. My favourite author is Machiavelli, where the ends justifies the means.

Your biggest enemy now is pain. The distance you have between yourself and your goal is 1cm (I don't know how much exactly). Just remember that pain is temporary and height is permanent. What you do now will affects the rest of your life. You can always be generous with the pain meds. Pain is just a state of mind but height is real.

If you must, bite on to a stick while making that click. Think about all the thoughts where height has hold you back in life.... about the bitch who rejected you for whatever reason. Whatever you do, the moment is now. If you fail to reach that height gain and have your bone consolidate, then you will have to accept either not reaching your height goal or have to consider an additional LL down the road.

My doctor told me stop, so I have to stop. The femur angle really doesn't affect it too much, to be honest. And I don't believe compression is much of a risk with internal nails. I'm not saying it's not possible, but that's more the case for externals where compression loss happens. And with the Gnail, apparently you gain slightly more height than what you click (I've read number of diaries where this was the case, and Dr G has reiterated this to me several times).

I was told explicitly not to click anymore. I had only planned on doing a few more mm, and I'm not sure it's worth the potential risks. It's already been close to a month side I clicked so the point is probably moot.

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Smallguy you lost .5CM? That's not so bad.

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Hey YellowSpike I think your getting into that obsessive mental state where it is hard to take a step back and look at things objectively. I know how you feel
I had the same obsession when I used to get bad acne.

You have had a very good gain. If you did tibia from your starting height you'll then have to deal with a whole lot of proportion issues which I'm sure you want to avoid.

7cm is an excellent for femur and you did the best that you possibly could given the circumstances. That is all anyone can do.

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Quote from: theuprising on March 27, 2015, 10:19:43 PMHey YellowSpike I think your getting into that obsessive mental state where it is hard to take a step back and look at things objectively. I know how you feel
I had the same obsession when I used to get bad acne.

You have had a very good gain. If you did tibia from your starting height you'll then have to deal with a whole lot of proportion issues which I'm sure you want to avoid.

7cm is an excellent for femur and you did the best that you possibly could given the circumstances. That is all anyone can do.

Thank you very much for your support. I know I'm obsessing, and I know I have to stop.

Yeah, I was only 166cm starting height. The only thing now is that if I ever did tibias, I'd do 1.5 inches max, maybe even just an inch! The only question is, would that be worth it (cost, time, pain, etc.). I think once I'm recovered I'll feel a lot better.

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Quote from: YellowSpike on March 27, 2015, 10:02:18 PMMy doctor told me stop, so I have to stop. The femur angle really doesn't affect it too much, to be honest. And I don't believe compression is much of a risk with internal nails. I'm not saying it's not possible, but that's more the case for externals where compression loss happens. And with the Gnail, apparently you gain slightly more height than what you click (I've read number of diaries where this was the case, and Dr G has reiterated this to me several times).

I was told explicitly not to click anymore. I had only planned on doing a few more mm, and I'm not sure it's worth the potential risks. It's already been close to a month side I clicked so the point is probably moot.

Damn, I guess I was late for repping the motivation speech. I should have done it a month ago

Btw, 5'8 is not a bad height living in America. It's quite close to average. If you step outside, of course, there will men who are taller than you (around 55%) but there will also be men who are shorter than you (45%).

Height neurosis can affect anyone.. even tall people though I personally think that there is some other factors involved for tall people. But I think the biggest joy from increasing in height is not about the final height itself, it's about the change in perspective. Even though you may think you are short numerically wise, but this surgery has done more for you than any already tall people. Once you come back home, you no longer have to contend with the discrimination and issues you have previously.

In the morning, you can wake up and feel great about yourself. Life will be awesome from this point here.

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Quote from: YellowSpike on March 27, 2015, 08:35:33 PMYou mentioned rolfing...is that legit at all? If I could find a way to squeeze out another .5-1 inch without LL, it would be amazing. I just don't think it's possible, or at least I'm very skeptical. A few have mentioned glucoasmine and inversion, but that would only be temporary.

My height is 169 now after I finished my last rolfing session this morning and measuring my height at the gym. If you ever look at the backs of football (soccer) players then you would see that they are straight as fk even when running or leaning, gaining maximum upper body height.

It feels slightly similar to chiro but less dramatic per session and my back is definitely straighter which explains the 1cm and that I don't have to 'remember' to straighten my back (maybe I was a few mm taller than 168 before but no way 169).

Maybe after you are 100% recovered you could go for it. After seeing your pics your back definitely looks fked, I'd be surprised if you didn't get a few mm after full rolfing, it could be your answer after trying everything else. If it doesn't work then at least it would have improved your general posture, even without the height I must say that I feel taller.

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Quote from: Uppland on March 27, 2015, 10:08:25 PMSmallguy you lost .5CM? That's not so bad.

Yeah I did. It's the reality of LL. For various reasons (bone compression, bone curvature, overestimation, etc.), people get less than what they lengthen. So it's good to be conservative and measure downward if you could, then you won't have the possibility of getting disappointed by the result.

I also didn't do purely external. We had LON where we also get the IM nail inserted into our tibias.

Quote from: Uppland on March 27, 2015, 10:08:25 PMI'm sure there will be a way of naturally increasing our height by 1CM in the next few years, I'm counting on it.

It's already here. It's called positive thinking and keeping your back straight. If you ever video yourself, you'll be amazed by how much height you lose just by drooping your back