Yellowspike - Dr. Guichet, Internal Femurs, Late 2014

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I thought you only got ballerina if you did 6cm or more?

it will always be beneficial to be taller if your under 6 1, overall there is not much a man can do other than get taller to improve himself, so i would say go for it, but given what you have to go through to be taller i wouldn't do it if i was 5' 8" or up, maybe if it took only 4 months with minimum pain, but not 8 months and a lot of pain.

but that's for another matter.

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Quote from: Descreteuser on May 29, 2015, 10:41:12 PM181 to 185.. im 2.5 months post op, finished lengthening a week ago.. im currently stretching out my ballerina which is very minor and gradually getting flexibility back in my legs.. walking with walker at this stage. on track to have frames off in 4.5 to 5 months

Godspeed man, why did you lengthen such a small amount though?

I'm thinking about going for 185 as well.

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originally i was going to do 5cm but i chose 4cm for a number of reasons.
- the monolateral device has troubles the more you lengthen
- im completely satisfied with 185cm
- 4cm is alot safer than 5cm with this device
- proportions

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Quote from: microman on May 29, 2015, 10:14:17 PMid say 172 is a weak 5' 8", 174 is 5 8.5".

well i guess it's how you feel at the end of the day, but i would look at other people in the world rather than a figure you see in your head as what you think is a good height, and in that case you will notice many men shorter than you, and at that point, you will realise you are a good height, I think.

yeah Uppland wow 178, I wouldn't do LL even if it was for free at that height, even 174 i wouldn't do it. i know like 10 guys at 170, none of them care about their height.

YellowSpike you said LL is a long and hard process, if you did 5cm would you feel the process isn't that long, the length of time it takes along with the mental strain etc. is my main reason to go for 5cm over 7cm, keep in mind i will be doing external tibia.

Well I think my evening height is a little more than 172. I just got back from the gym, and it's 8pm near where I live, and I came in at just over 5'8" (so over 172.7), using the aerosol can method (I've heard stadiometers can actually slightly overstate your height, but I'm sure it ain't by much). Some nights I've measured a bit lower, but never as low as 172.

I agree, many of the others on here like Uppland already have good heights...but we also don't know what it's like to have tall siblings, a very tall father, or live in a super tall country. So to us, while 5'10" might seen epic, it may not cut it for them. It is what it is...if this will improve their lives (we all deserve to be happy), all the more power to them.

If I did 5cm femurs, I'm sure this would have been much easier. What's tempting about doing another inch next year is that Dr. G said I'd only have to click for like 2-2.5 weeks, then focus on recovery. He also said it would be much less painful, and that I'd have less side effects (less duckass and less funny walking after clicking). Only, this time around, I would make more of an effort to walk more right after finishing clicking. The fact that it was winter (ice on the ground) and from my own fear, I didn't walk as much as I could have earlier on. That's my only regret from how I went about this process so far.

Had a decent workout tonight. Started weight training (very light though) for my glutes...need to get that ass back to help with the duckass and hip swaying!

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oh right your 173, ok then, I would recomend a stadiometer along with measuring yourself in the frankfort position, that is how the male average is measured anyway so ideally you should try to match that.

so when guichet mentions another height surgery, is he saying for the tibia, or is it for adding more on your femur?

Would you really pay that much money again just for 3cm of height?

I remember on the old forum some guy went from 5 2 - 5 7 with 2 LL surgeries, apparently he did it again to get to 5 8.5, but i didn't even know you could re cut the bone for further length.

he was living in US btw so wasn't in india or something, just a really really short guy.

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Quote from: microman on May 30, 2015, 12:24:23 AMoh right your 173, ok then, I would recomend a stadiometer along with measuring yourself in the frankfort position, that is how the male average is measured anyway so ideally you should try to match that.

so when guichet mentions another height surgery, is he saying for the tibia, or is it for adding more on your femur?

Would you really pay that much money again just for 3cm of height?

I remember on the old forum some guy went from 5 2 - 5 7 with 2 LL surgeries, apparently he did it again to get to 5 8.5, but i didn't even know you could re cut the bone for further length.

he was living in US btw so wasn't in india or something, just a really really short guy.

Hmm I'll try that. I'm familiar with the frankfort position...may give me a few mm, I dunno.

I mean, the cost will be far less to do that last inch...still expensive (if you break the cost down per inch), but not as crazy as the first time. I'm not entirely sure about it yet. Dr. G thinks I'll have become satisfied by the time I fully recover. We will see. The only reason I wouldn't do it would be time and not wanting to go through the process (albeit an abbreviated one) again once I"m fully recovered and fully back to my normal routine (I am still getting there). Cost isn't too much of an issue (I can actually afford another full-blown LL with Paley or Guichet right now), but I'm trying to save for a house within the next few years.

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it usually will by half a cm, but that is how the measurement is taken for the male average.

in case your wondering about the 9cm lifts they are donsfootwear

http://donsfootwear.com/elevator-height-increase-5-inch

you just ask for 5.5" model, they will give you 9cm more height than flats, mine are arriving in a week and i should see what 173cm feels like.

but if you are 173 now, and you did 7cm LL, then you would have been 166 pre op.

you must think it strange that I am 164 and only doing 5cm, but I want a quicker process and I feel fine using 4cm lifts as part of my height solution.

I could do a 2nd LL to 174, then i wont need the 4cm lifts, but that's not worth the fuss.

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Have been getting asked to give updates, so here we go.

My right leg has been fused for a while now (maybe mid/late April?). As of my latest x-rays, my left leg is still not quite there yet (but was told it's like 95% of the way there). This explains why I still have numbness in that leg (which I never had in the right one) and why it was so easy to click this leg throughout the process. I've been crutch-free (including stairs, which I'm still very slow with) for about 6 weeks now. My walking is ok but I still have this annoying hip swaying. Dr. G and two other patients told me in conversation that their walking seemed to improve faster after both legs were fused. So it's just this stupid left leg that's holding things up at the moment, but apparently it's very close to being fused finally (I might have to kill someone if it hasn't fused by my next X-rays, probably in like 3 or so weeks). I'd still say my overall recovery is fairly average for an LL patient who did a good 7cm (maybe slightly below average if we're comparing to legends like ShyShy/OBG, but maybe even a little above average when factoring in all other patients, including non weight-bearing ones).

Have been doing light workouts at the gym, including the elliptical, stair master, and light leg weights (but very light for now, given my stupid left leg). It's not too bad. Once I can walk down the street without feeling kinda embarrassed, I will feel very close to being like my old self again. I haven't been cleared to do these things yet, but couldn't wait any longer, and I'm being ultra careful.

I'll continue to give updates every so often, but I'm kind of over it all, so won't be nearly as often. My next update will likely be when the hip swaying goes away.

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Alright, how does it feel to have longer femurs then?

Nice to hear you're over it, the dream is to suffer for a while and then move on.

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How does it feel? Honestly, aside from the occasional pains that I still have (due to hip screws, weak muscles, etc.), it feels and looks totally normal. If my gait were better, no one would know I did LL. Although, the height difference is pretty nice. I love doing cardio at the gym, and seeing guys that from far away look taller than me, but I'm the same height or taller than them when I'm closer to them.

I still feel like a short guy (probably always will to some degree) on the inside, but everyone is telling me that I'm about average now.